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« Reply #3950 on: March 07, 2025, 09:19:59 am »
Sometimes lot lizards are better dining companions than foodie swells
If that was the best food you had in Savannah, you must have ate Waffle House every other meal

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« Reply #3951 on: April 16, 2025, 05:54:02 pm »
Good evening from Pittsburgh, PA! We are spending Spring Break here, mostly visiting museums with our elementary schooler. We've done the Carnegie Museum, we've done Randyland, we took a ride on the Dusquense Incline funicular, we've done Pitt's "Cathedral of Learning" and seen its nationality rooms, 20+ rooms each ornately decorated in the style of a country that has contributed to Pittsburgh's population. It's sort of like Pittsburgh's answer to DC's embassy open houses. The biggest hit so far has been the National Aviary, a bird zoo where you can see free-flight birds and pay extra money to feed the birds. Our kid loved the National Aviary so much that they asked to go back a second time the next day so I've paid that admission fee 6x now. Not too mad however as I got to feed the lorikeets twice and we have seen not only penguins but a tremendous amount of rainforest birds from around the world.

Bowling at Bowlero Pittsburgh is only $9 per person for unlimited games and that includes shoe rental (!). That's like 5-10x less than what it costs to bowl in Northern Virginia.

The 3D geography of Pittsburgh is absolutely nuts. Sure it's flat downtown and in Oakland where Pitt and CMU are but in the hills above the rivers the city is built on terraces or in what I believe they call "hollers" in Appalachia. It's crazy to drive, one wrong turn and you end up at the wrong elevation. Streets are all extremely narrow too and while there is (still) coal up in those hills there is certainly no street grid up there. It's like Boston if Boston were in the Carpathian Mountains.

Tomorrow we see the Nationals play the Pirates at PNC Park. I've been wearing my Montreal Expos jacket around town and saw at least two other people from Washington wearing Expos gear on the streets of Pittsburgh. Gonna be my kids first time cheering for the Nats on the road. Given the weather (high of 60 tomorrow) we are in the Pittsburgh Base Ball Club seats, which have a climate controlled indoor area with restaurants that we can retreat into if things get too cold.

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« Reply #3952 on: April 16, 2025, 08:14:57 pm »
Enjoy!

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« Reply #3953 on: April 16, 2025, 08:16:14 pm »
Perfect trip!! PNC Park is my favorite ballpark. Enjoy!!!

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« Reply #3954 on: April 16, 2025, 08:35:26 pm »
We went to Pittsburgh for the 2010 Caps/Penguins Winter Classic and (aside from the mandatory trash talk) everyone was extremely friendly.   

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« Reply #3955 on: April 17, 2025, 03:37:11 pm »
Well the game sucked (Pirates won 1-0 as Nats offense sputtered again) but PNC Park was great. We really enjoyed our seats in the Pittsburgh Base Ball Club seats on the 200 level. Not only do you get wider, padded seats but you have access to an indoor area with AC/heat, upscale concessions, and nice comfy chairs. There are even four pool tables and you can play pool for free.

We paid $40 each for these seats on Seatgeek. I'd expect to pay three figures at most other MLB ballparks for such amenities.

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« Reply #3956 on: June 19, 2025, 08:41:38 pm »
Good evening from Blacksburg, VA! We're "up the valley" for the entire weekend. When I booked an Airbnb with a Blacksburg address, I envisioned staying in a college town: walkable streets with quirky shops, lots of trendy food options, etc. Instead, this Airbnb is way up in the mountains accessible by a winding road, I do not get cell reception up here, and there are donkeys, sheep, and pigs on the property. My kid loves the sheep since the sheep just lays there all day and allows unlimited petting: not sure why we paid for Virginia Safari Park on the way here!

Tomorrow, we will go boating at Claytor Lake State Park. Plans for Saturday still up in the air, happy to take recommendations. I will note that the Salem Red Sox play just 51 minutes down the valley from us and the F-Nats are in town this weekend.

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« Reply #3957 on: June 19, 2025, 09:44:18 pm »
Claytor Lake park is very nice. 

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« Reply #3958 on: June 20, 2025, 12:13:18 am »
Beautiful area enjoy.

If you get some time I’d recommend exploring the story of Mary Draper Ingles. Unfortunately I don’t think the outdoor play is held anymore.

https://www.visitradford.com/169/Mary-Draper-Ingles

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« Reply #3959 on: August 05, 2025, 05:11:08 am »
Hello from Switzerland! We are staying in Grindelwald, a famous mountain village up in the mountains south of Bern. Today we rode a cable car up to the top of a small mountain called Pfingstegg. Up at the top there is a little zip line you can ride.

The zipline operator, a Swiss local, asked us where we were from. When we said Washington DC, he unzipped his sweater and revealed a Washington Nationals shirt below. Turns out he is a huge fan and has been following the team for years. He said he was not upset that Bryce Harper left and holds no ill will against Bryce chasing the money since Bryce was honest and transparent about his ambitions since his rookie year. He said he is upset that ownership traded Juan Soto and Trea Turner and didn't re-sign Anthony Rendon, whom he exclusively referred to as "Tony Two-Bags" and lamented the cheapness of the Lerners.

Just know that the next time you look up at the Swiss Alps, somewhere up there is a bitter Nats fan saying LAC.

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« Reply #3960 on: August 05, 2025, 06:48:26 am »
Lovely! The Bernese Oberland is hard to beat, as a destination. Very familiar with Grindelwald - great place to be based. If you're not into climbing, but want the High Alps experience, then you're ideally placed - take the train to Kleine Scheidegg, and from there the mountain railway up to the Jungfraujoch weather station; the highest rail station in Europe (over 11,000 ft). On a clear day the views are spectacular, and (if you watch what you're doing) you can walk out onto the Aletsch Glacier, Take warm clothing - even if it's hot, at ground level, it's always cool at that elevation. Also be mindful of oxygen depletion - the air, up there, is pretty thin; most people start to feel that moving is an effort after about 60 to 90 minutes. Clear thinking can also start to be challenging. If you're starting to struggle, then it's time to go down. On the decent everyone on the train goes to sleep, as they adjust to the oxygen levels.

If you're into climbing (as i was more in my younger days..) then the Eiger is right next door - including the famous North Face (now we're talking...)

If you want tourist picturesque with an interesting visit, then I recommend Lucerne - the Old Town and the lake bridges will soon have your camera going. It's also home to the Verkershaus - the National Swiss Transport Museum, which is well worth a visit.

I shall now go and be grumpy that you're enjoying the Oberland and I'm not... :lol:

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« Reply #3961 on: August 05, 2025, 08:33:14 am »
What fun to discover the Swiss Nats fan! Did he say how he happened to start following the team?

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« Reply #3962 on: August 05, 2025, 09:09:46 am »
Hello from Switzerland! We are staying in Grindelwald, a famous mountain village up in the mountains south of Bern. Today we rode a cable car up to the top of a small mountain called Pfingstegg. Up at the top there is a little zip line you can ride.

The zipline operator, a Swiss local, asked us where we were from. When we said Washington DC, he unzipped his sweater and revealed a Washington Nationals shirt below. Turns out he is a huge fan and has been following the team for years. He said he was not upset that Bryce Harper left and holds no ill will against Bryce chasing the money since Bryce was honest and transparent about his ambitions since his rookie year. He said he is upset that ownership traded Juan Soto and Trea Turner and didn't re-sign Anthony Rendon, whom he exclusively referred to as "Tony Two-Bags" and lamented the cheapness of the Lerners.

Just know that the next time you look up at the Swiss Alps, somewhere up there is a bitter Nats fan saying LAC.

enjoy the trip and share a pic or two if you can! That's crazy that you ran into a Nats fan. Did you invite him to WNFF? :)

My only time in Switzerland was spending a day in Lugano after taking the train up from Milan. Beautiful lakeshore town but I recall most everything being expensive.

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« Reply #3963 on: August 05, 2025, 09:17:18 am »
What's fun to do in the Fort Myers, Florida area with kids? We are booked there for late January.

How old are your kids? The reason I ask is that we have relatives in Fort Myers and if you want, I can ask them for suggestions based on your kids' ages. While we have visited a number of times, we don't have kids and thus I have a feeling that the sorts of things we've visited are probably less interesting to many kids. (Their older son is now in college and their other son and their daughter are both in high school.)

I will say the shell museum on Sanibel was a pretty good visit and our relatives' kids seemed to find that interesting the time we went there. If you are flying down and renting a car and you plan to go to Sanibel, take your E-ZPass with you to avoid the car rental company dinging you with toll fees.

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« Reply #3964 on: August 05, 2025, 10:57:24 am »
enjoy the trip and share a pic or two if you can! That's crazy that you ran into a Nats fan. Did you invite him to WNFF? :)

My only time in Switzerland was spending a day in Lugano after taking the train up from Milan. Beautiful lakeshore town but I recall most everything being expensive.

Yes, Switzerland is insanely expensive. A meal at a shabby restaurant is easily $25-30 per plate. Eating at a restaurant is something we plan to only do once or twice on this entire trip. And the dollar has declined significantly against the Swiss Franc in the months since I booked this trip.

Some ways we are saving money:

(1) We booked an Airbnb with a full kitchen so we are going to grocery stores, buying food ingredients, and cooking most of our meals. This means we are bringing sack lunches with us to attractions when appropriate.

(2) For the specific region of Switzerland I'm in (The Bernese Oberland, aka the Jungfrau Region) there are two passes that give you admission to various attractions and trains/buses/gondolas. For either pass to be cost-effective, you have to buy into just that pass's ecosystem: see the things that are free with that pass and avoid things that are not free with that pass. So I have the Bernese Oberland Pass and unfortunately that does not include Jungfraujoch, the place English Natsie describes. Instead it includes Schilthorn, which is a gondola to a slightly lower mountain peak on top of which is a revolving restaurant that served as Blofeld's HQ in that one Bond movie with George Lazenby.

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« Reply #3965 on: August 05, 2025, 11:04:39 am »
I was traveling in Korea in 2019 during the beginning of the playoffs. I would wear my Nats hat and would see many locals with Dodgers hats. Ryu pitched there at the time as you remember. No one said anything. But we got the last laugh.

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« Reply #3966 on: August 05, 2025, 11:10:23 am »
there's a thread somewhere from years ago about the places where you've run into Nats fans.

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« Reply #3967 on: August 05, 2025, 05:45:42 pm »
Yes, Switzerland is insanely expensive. A meal at a shabby restaurant is easily $25-30 per plate. Eating at a restaurant is something we plan to only do once or twice on this entire trip. And the dollar has declined significantly against the Swiss Franc in the months since I booked this trip.

Some ways we are saving money:

(1) We booked an Airbnb with a full kitchen so we are going to grocery stores, buying food ingredients, and cooking most of our meals. This means we are bringing sack lunches with us to attractions when appropriate.

(2) For the specific region of Switzerland I'm in (The Bernese Oberland, aka the Jungfrau Region) there are two passes that give you admission to various attractions and trains/buses/gondolas. For either pass to be cost-effective, you have to buy into just that pass's ecosystem: see the things that are free with that pass and avoid things that are not free with that pass. So I have the Bernese Oberland Pass and unfortunately that does not include Jungfraujoch, the place English Natsie describes. Instead it includes Schilthorn, which is a gondola to a slightly lower mountain peak on top of which is a revolving restaurant that served as Blofeld's HQ in that one Bond movie with George Lazenby.

Schilthorn is well worth the trip - and it's still nudging 10,000 ft. Not sure how much time you have - gondola up and walk down is a pleasant way to spend a day (it's about a five hour walk, but all on well defined footpaths - you won't need crampons!  :D). As you're finding, the only downside to Switzerland is the expense - priciest of all are the tourist hotspots of Interlaken and the area around the Matterhorn (the one mountain everyone has heard of...).

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« Reply #3968 on: August 07, 2025, 12:58:17 am »
Altitude is no joke. When I was in 5th or 6th grade my parents took me to Colorado for summer vacation. As we were driving from the Denver Airport to our first hotel in Colorado Springs, we passed a sign saying something like "Top of Pikes Peak ->" and, on a whim, followed it. My dad ended up driving that rental car 14,000 feet up some of the hardest looking roads I've ever seen to the summit of Pikes Peak. As soon as we got out of the car at that height, I got out of the car to run around...and promptly got altitude sickness. The drive down was miserable for all.

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« Reply #3969 on: August 07, 2025, 10:04:25 am »
But did you at least get a “This car climbed Pike’s Peak” bumper sticker out of the deal?  :mg:

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« Reply #3970 on: August 07, 2025, 11:47:14 am »
Here's a fun fact I learned today: the sun is stronger at higher altitudes and so your risk of sunburn is higher. A hypothetical person who doesn't normally sunburn, not even on a Sunday day game at Nats Park, might turn as red as a lobster if they spend a few hours hiking 7,000 feet up in Switzerland.

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« Reply #3971 on: August 07, 2025, 03:27:20 pm »
I spent 4-5 weeks in Bern back in 2019 before I retired.  Really enjoyed the walkability of the town.  Trick to play on new arrivals, walk up to any fountain in town, catch some water out of a spout and drink it.  See the looks of mortification on their faces.  However, the water is fresh, potable pumped up from the water works in town on the Aare River. 

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« Reply #3972 on: October 11, 2025, 07:50:24 pm »
Just back from a 3 week driving trip to the American Southwest.

GRAND CANYON: We flew to PHX and grabbed the rental car, then headed to Grand Canyon for a few days. I’d never been there. I’ve seen so many pictures of it, but nothing can prepare you for your first glimpse of the real thing.

MONUMENT VALLEY, VALLEY OF THE GODS, MOKI DUGWAY: From there we drove NE to visit Monument Valley, the Valley of the Gods, and drove the hair-raising Moki Dugway. The towering red formations, with names like East and West Mittens, Castle Rock, Elephant Butte, and Sitting Hen, are amazing. So many Westerns were filmed here over the decades, and of course there’s the famous scene in Forrest Gump when he’s running down the highway leading to Monument Valley. The roads through all of these are unpaved and very rough, and we were glad we’d rented a 4WD vehicle.

FOUR CORNERS: We made a fun visit to Four Corners, the place where UT, AZ, NM, and CO all meet. There are several Native American artists from local tribes there selling jewelry, pots, paintings, and other Native crafts. It was a great place to buy something directly from the artist who created it.

HISTORIC TRAIN RIDES: From there we drove to Durango, CO, and spent a day riding a narrow gauge historic train to Silverton, CO. You ride deep into the San Juan National Forest, with some absolutely jaw-dropping scenery. A couple days later, we to Chama, NM, and spent a day on another historic narrow-gauge train, riding to Antonio, CO. We climbed up 10,000 foot high mountains. From there we could see huge stands of aspens in their brilliant yellow fall colors stretching over the mountains. We even saw some pronghorn antelopes.

TAOS: From there, we drove to Taos. visiting Mesa Verde Historical Park the day before the government shut down. This Park was the home of the ancient Pueblo people who constructed complex cliff dwellings. They were quite sophisticated builders - some of those cliff dwellings contained over 100 rooms, and have lasted 1,000 years. As always, NPS does a wonderful job of education and interpretation, and I learned a lot about these ancient people. We also visited the Taos Pueblo, where descendants of those original cliff dwellers live today. The native guide was excellent.

SANTA FE: We then headed to Santa Fe for 4 days. We’d planned to visit Pecos and Bandelier National Parks, but by that time the Parks had shut down. Instead we visited the Los Alamos History Museum, Meow Wolf (indescribable experience, but we loved it), and took a hot air balloon ride. And of course we spent a wonderful day at Santa Fe Plaza. We learned about red and green chilis, and ate so many excellent meals of New Mexican food and margaritas. My favorite was a margarita infused with green chili. Spicy!

ALBUQUERQUE: We ended up in Albuquerque in time for the Balloon Fiesta. The dawn Mass Ascension is amazing - hundreds of hot air balloons in the sky, in every brilliant color, floating over the city like beautiful jewels. The Balloon Museum which adjoins the Fiesta grounds gives an excellent overview of the history of ballooning. We also took the Tramway to the top of Sandia Peak, with an elevation of 10,300 feet. Interesting trying to breathe at that altitude. And of course, enjoyed more New Mexican food and drink.

The Southwest is so different from here. We’re so used to our trees, creeks, and wildlife here that being in a desert environment for 3 weeks was quite a change. We saw road runners, jack rabbits, and even a giant tarantula-type spider (I didn’t check it out closely.) The jagged mountains dotted with scrub and sage brush were the basic scenery of the trip. We also saw so much Native American culture, something we see so rarely here. The adobe New Mexican architecture is lovely, and quite a change from the brick Colonial style so prevalent in this area.

Besides margaritas, we enjoyed a lot of local craft beers. NM has a thriving brewery industry, and we were able to sample local brews wherever we went. My personal favorite was a pale wheat named Elephants on Parade. I’m not normally a fan of wheat beers, but this one was excellent. And who could resist that name?

I was reminded again what a huge country this is, and how our regions have evolved differently based on climate, geography, and cultural of the people who live there. It’s always fascinating to see and appreciate.

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« Reply #3973 on: October 11, 2025, 08:10:36 pm »
Thanks for that.  We are planning a week or so trip spring break.  Fly to Phoenix and stay flagstaff or Sedona area a free days and check out the Grand Canyon and some other sites.  Then Kanab a few days to see Bryce and Zion parks.  And then to Vegas a few days. Have never been Grand Canyon though or the other parks so looking forward.

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« Reply #3974 on: October 11, 2025, 08:57:24 pm »
If you want a splurge meal, make a reservation at El Tovar restaurant at Grand Canyon, and request a window table overlooking the Canyon. The night we were there, a tremendous storm passed over the Canyon, giving us an amazing light show.


The Rim Trail gives you the opportunity to hike the Canyon’s rim without large descents (and equally large and difficult ascents). You don’t have to hike all 13 miles. There’s a free shuttle bus (the Red route - Hermits Rest) that makes several stops. So you can hike for a couple of miles, hop on the bus for a few miles, then hike for a few more miles, as much as you want. There are incredible views all along this trail.


Of course, this is all assuming the government reopens by the time of your visit. Fingers crossed.