Nats Aggressively Shopping Lannan

[24 Nats]

Who didn't other than the Nats and Orioles?

Boston.

[zoom]

Edwin Jackson + Corey Brown for Brett Gardner. Yankees need a good pitcher after Sabathia and maybe Ivan Nova. Hughes, and Burnett are not much. If the Nats have Jackson, and he's basically an extra pitcher on an already-good rotation, use him for someone really valuable. (And please get someone to remove C Brown)

(Assumption: Lannan does not bring much in trade.)

The Yankees have Pineda.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

he'd rather have lannan than penny.  and i'm not saying lannan would be the centerpiece.  no chance that would happen.

sure, but not at the cost of Jones unless Lannan was a throw in and the real prizes were two of our top remaining arms in the minors.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The Yankees have Pineda.

and Kuroda and Garcia and Banuelos and Betances and . . .

[Slateman]

The Yankees have Pineda.

Yup. and Nova

Sabathia
Nova
Pineda
Burnett
Whatever they want.

Rotation is strong. And its not like they won't score runs.

Lannan's value will go up as the trade deadline approaches. Someone always wants  another pitcher to try and make the playoffs.

[Mattionals]

I'd like picking up a guy like Thames from Toronto.  Sure his D is suspect, but the bat is there.  CF would still be patrolled by Werth though, but I was already ok with that.  Worst case the three way idea of Selig sending Byrd to Boston and then Boston trading Byrd for Lannan seems fair.

I'd rather take Thames who has speed and power, and maybe could break out with better D, as he is still young.  Plus he is a lefty!

[Squab]

I'd do Lannan + someone else for Charlie Blackmon in an instant, just put that kid in CF and see what he can do. He can play center, he isn't great at it but adequate, and he's hit .297 or better and got on base at .360 or better at every level in the minors, inlcuding a .390 mark at AAA. He makes contact, bats lefty, and takes a few walks. I mean I love Lannan but even if Blackmon doesn't work out well, I wouldn't regret it.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blackch02.shtml

[hammondsnats]

sure, but not at the cost of Jones unless Lannan was a throw in and the real prizes were two of our top remaining arms in the minors.

that's why someone mentioned solis.  maybe lannan, detwiler, lombo and a prospect.  who knows ... the o's need a lot of pitching. 

[Minty Fresh]

i like it

I loved it, then the last two seasons sucked and I wanted to junkpunch JJ Abrams.

[Tyler Durden]

After a certain point, Jones' value will start to decline if the O's hang on to him.  The Astros didn't really get a ton for Bourn after waiting until he had 1.5 years of team control left. 

[welch]

The Yankees already basically passed on Jackson

If the Yankees passed on Jackson, and, yes, I don't remember anything in the NY press about him, then why are we so excited to have him? The Nats can't hit, so Rizzo signs Lidge. Lidge adds no offense (sure), so the Nats sign Jackson. What is the logic?

[Lintyfresh85]

The logic is that Jackson is better than Lannan and Wang so we spent the money to upgrade.

It's not like there's any offensive guys in FA left out there that really can improve the team as much as Jackson can.

[LostYudite]

If the Yankees passed on Jackson, and, yes, I don't remember anything in the NY press about him, then why are we so excited to have him? The Nats can't hit, so Rizzo signs Lidge. Lidge adds no offense (sure), so the Nats sign Jackson. What is the logic?

Gonna be the first team in history with a team era under 1. Score 2 and win.  Of course, we'll end 83-79 while setting a record for "games lost 1-0."

[hammondsnats]

If the Yankees passed on Jackson, and, yes, I don't remember anything in the NY press about him, then why are we so excited to have him?

wow really?

[Tyler Durden]

Tigers have a bunch of right handed pitchers and could use Lannan.

Don Kelly is a decent utility player - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kellydo01.shtml
Andy Dirks would be a pretty good player here - maybe similar in some ways to Bernadina but a bit better - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dirksan01.shtml

There could be a trade there.  The two teams already made one trade together this year with Balester and Perry.

[imref]

Tigers have a bunch of right handed pitchers and could use Lannan.

Don Kelly is a decent utility player - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kellydo01.shtml
Andy Dirks would be a pretty good player here - maybe similar in some ways to Bernadina but a bit better - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dirksan01.shtml

There could be a trade there.  The two teams already made one trade together this year with Balester and Perry.

I guess there's no chance they move Austin Jackson?

[MarquisDeSade]

Don Kelly is a decent utility player - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kellydo01.shtml

We already have Ean Desmond, Roger Bernadina, and Mark DeRosa.  A 31 year-old with a sub-700 OPS == no way.

Andy Dirks would be a pretty good player here - maybe similar in some ways to Bernadina but a bit better - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dirksan01.shtml

Much in the same way a blowout at 60mph is better than a blowout at 70mph.

[zimm_da_kid]

I guess there's no chance they move Austin Jackson?

they could be frustrated with him due to his 181 strikeouts last year leading off so i guess it's possible.  he has good defense, speed, and a decent OBP

[PatsNats28]

I thought the Orioles traded Jones to the Braves... or did I mindfact that?

[tomterp]

I thought the Orioles traded Jones to the Braves... or did I mindfact that?

 

[spidernat]

Gonna be the first team in history with a team era under 1. Score 2 and win.  Of course, we'll end 83-79 while setting a record for "games lost 1-0."

I don't see why people are bent on saying the offense will be putrid. It may not be what it should be if the owners weren't so freaking cheap but I don't see it being as bad as some people seem to think it will be.

[hammondsnats]

I don't see why people are bent on saying the offense will be putrid. It may not be what it should be if the owners weren't so freaking cheap but I don't see it being as bad as some people seem to think it will be.

i just think if they are going to go with a questionable leadoff hitter, it would've been nice to have a guy like fielder who really would've made our middle of the line-up full of guys who have pop (werth/zimmerman/fielder/morse/harper/etc).

and on the other side, if we had gotten a guy like reyes, we would've had a top of the order presence we haven't had.

[tomterp]

I don't see why people are bent on saying the offense will be putrid. It may not be what it should be if the owners weren't so freaking cheap but I don't see it being as bad as some people seem to think it will be.

A tad below average I think, assuming Z-man is healthy.  Could be above average if we could get our 1-2 slots up to snuff.

[hammondsnats]

and who knows maybe zimmerman stays healthy and posts his career norms, morse continues to progress or stay at his level, werth has a bounce back year, ramos improves, laroche is healthy, harper can shine under the bright lights, espinosa and desmond take the next step ...

but at the same time look at the flip side.  could be a collective crap storm.  we'll see.  i'm tired of saying it and i know everyone's tired of hearing it, but this is a playoff team with one extra bat. 

[spidernat]

A tad below average I think, assuming Z-man is healthy.  Could be above average if we could get our 1-2 slots up to snuff.

But not the type of offense that will set a record for 1-0 losses! If that happens Stephen Strasburg will be Walter Johnson reincarnated.