Author Topic: Fielder (Read 282914 times)

wpa2629 · « **Reply #3225 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:29:00 pm »

Quote from: Rasta on January 18, 2012, 04:28:12 pm

I'm not a nervous nellie. I just believe that the Rangers have planned on signing him all along but were just laying low from the beginning. I hope I'm wrong but I fully believe they are signing both Darvish & Fielder. Prince in that ballpark is just an awesome fit.

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Baseball is Life · « **Reply #3226 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:30:23 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on January 18, 2012, 04:27:08 pm

I didn't "get" it, I made it up. It's just a theory.

OK, but aren't theories supposed to be based on facts. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in that the article says that some negotiators in the Yu camp are not satisifed. Maybe the Rangers fed that to the writer so they can lay the groundwork for laying blame for the collapse of negotiations.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #3227 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:31:46 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on January 18, 2012, 04:12:20 pm

Sanity. But the LoD needs something to sustain itself, I guess.

we tend to be vindicated around the time local writers start talking about fair market value

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #3228 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:35:41 pm »

Official now: Darvish has agreed to sign with the Rangers

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The Rangers have agreed to sign Yu Darvish, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The sides are wrapping up a deal with 25 minutes remaining before today's 4pm CDT deadline. Agents Don Nomura and Arn Tellem represent the 6'5" 25-year-old.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #3229 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:36:40 pm »

goodbye mancrush...

Ray D · « **Reply #3230 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:38:03 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on January 18, 2012, 04:30:23 pm

OK, but aren't theories supposed to be based on facts.

Facts along with speculation. My theory is based on the FACT that the Rangers are going to have to come up with $51M all at once, and I SPECULATE that perhaps they realize that's not such a good idea and are having second thoughts.

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #3231 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:39:22 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on January 18, 2012, 04:38:03 pm

Facts along with speculation. My theory is based on the FACT that the Rangers are going to have to come up with $51M all at once, and I SPECULATE that perhaps they realize that's not such a good idea and are having second thoughts.

You have been proven wrong, Darvish is now a Texas Ranger.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #3232 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:39:53 pm »

JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 2m

Coming up next..Colby Lewis Rangers RHP to talk about his new teammate Yu Darvish next...deal expected to be 5 yrs with option rather than 6

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #3233 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:45:42 pm »

Quote from: Rasta on January 18, 2012, 04:28:12 pm

I'm not a nervous nellie. I just believe that the Rangers have planned on signing him all along but were just laying low from the beginning. I hope I'm wrong but I fully believe they are signing both Darvish & Fielder. Prince in that ballpark is just an awesome fit.

If you believe that they plan to sign both, then the Yu signing does not impact anything related to Prince. My ass got chapped when the bed wetters started getting nervous that *maybe* the Yu signing was bit more team friendly and that they would have more money to throw at Prince.

Please. They are out $52M even before they pull their pants up.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #3234 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:53:39 pm »

Steve Berthiaume @SBerthiaumeESPN 4m

#Rangers RT/@JeffPassan: Source: Darvish deal is done.

Ray D · « **Reply #3235 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:56:11 pm »

Quote from: natsfan4evr on January 18, 2012, 04:39:22 pm

You have been proven wrong, Darvish is now a Texas Ranger.

No, not really. The theory was not that the deal would necessarily fall through, but that the Rangers were hoping it would. We don't know that they weren't.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #3236 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:57:53 pm »

They wouldn't have signed him had they truly not wanted him.

InsaneBoost · « **Reply #3237 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:58:10 pm »

Speculation.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #3238 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:58:48 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on January 18, 2012, 04:45:42 pm

If you believe that they plan to sign both, then the Yu signing does not impact anything related to Prince. My ass got chapped when the bed wetters started getting nervous that *maybe* the Yu signing was bit more team friendly and that they would have more money to throw at Prince.

Please. They are out $52M even before they pull their pants up.

yep, I was one of those who believed/still believe that the rangers were boras' leverage, now that yu signs negating the either/or proposition that people set up, they are saying, we... maybe they get both. Boras lost leverage, I don't buy that the rangers are still in it.

PebbleBall · « **Reply #3239 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:59:22 pm »

Quote from: Baseball is Life on January 18, 2012, 04:45:42 pm

If you believe that they plan to sign both, then the Yu signing does not impact anything related to Prince. My ass got chapped when the bed wetters started getting nervous that *maybe* the Yu signing was bit more team friendly and that they would have more money to throw at Prince.

Please. They are out $52M even before they pull their pants up.

In that case I agree with you. I think it's Prince to the Rangers on a relatively team friendly deal in short order.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #3240 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:00:17 pm »

Quote from: PebbleBall on January 18, 2012, 04:59:22 pm

I think it's Prince to the Rangers on a relatively team friendly deal in short order.

if 7 at 24 per was really on the table, no change he does a team friendly deal

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #3241 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:00:17 pm »

Quote from: Ray D on January 18, 2012, 04:56:11 pm

No, not really. The theory was not that the deal would necessarily fall through, but that the Rangers were hoping it would. We don't know that they weren't.

Huh? They are giving up over 100 million dollars. If they didn't want him, they wouldn't have signed him.
I'm sorry, but your post makes absolutely no sense to me.

PebbleBall · « **Reply #3242 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:00:23 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on January 18, 2012, 04:58:48 pm

yep, I was one of those who believed/still believe that the rangers were boras' leverage, now that yu signs negating the either/or proposition that people set up, they are saying, we... maybe they get both. Boras lost leverage, I don't buy that the rangers are still in it.

Why on earth would Boras do that then?

PebbleBall · « **Reply #3243 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:00:53 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on January 18, 2012, 05:00:17 pm

if 7 at 24 per was really on the table, no change he does a team friendly deal

There's nothing that indicates that was ever on the table.

InsaneBoost · « **Reply #3244 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:01:14 pm »

But there's nothing to indicate it wasn't

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #3245 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:01:29 pm »

Quote from: PebbleBall on January 18, 2012, 05:00:23 pm

Why on earth would Boras do that then?

unless he represents darvish, he had noting to do with it

natsfan4evr · « **Reply #3246 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:01:54 pm »

For the record it is a 6 year deal for 60 million dollars, so the talking heads were even wrong about the length of the deal.
If they can't get a simple thing like that correct, how can they have any clue where Fielder will end up?

wpa2629 · « **Reply #3247 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:02:03 pm »

Steve Berthiaume @SBerthiaumeESPN 1m

#Rangers RT/@JeffPassan: Source: Yu Darvish deal is for six years and $60 million. Bonuses can add up to $10 million.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #3248 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:02:20 pm »

Quote from: PebbleBall on January 18, 2012, 04:59:22 pm

In that case I agree with you. I think it's Prince to the Rangers on a relatively team friendly deal in short order.

If he's willing to take less money to go to the Rangers, then eff him. What are the Nats to do?

I want him here but if he doesn't sign, I will not sweat it a bit.

¡Vamos Ramos! · « **Reply #3249 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:03:18 pm »

I'd honestly be shocked if the Rangers now went and spent 20+ a year on Fielder. It could happen, but it'd be a serious surprise from where I'm sitting.