Define Natitude

[Kevrock]

Like it would matter?

It just blows my mind that the Cubs announcers actually think that there must be something hinky going on if a team lights up their pitchers -

yeah, it's because you suck

Sure, I think it would matter. Stealing signs is a slightly more legitimate reason to be pissed. If they were really mad that Werth took a hellhack when we were only up by 5 in the 5th that's ridiculous.

I was just pointing out that the Cubs' announcers guesses make zero sense.

[tomterp]

Dan Steinberg ‏@dcsportsbog
Davey: "If they're getting mad at my guys in the 5th inning [for] swinging 3-0 or running, they better get used to it." #Natitude #Natitude

Driving in this morning I was thinking of putting this in the title of this thread.  But I accept the Bo Porter paraphrase as fairly representive of proper Natitude.

         

[PowerBoater69]

Driving in this morning I was thinking of putting this in the title of this thread.  But I accept the Bo Porter paraphrase as fairly representive of proper Natitude.

         

Not Harper's quote? Lots of good ones last night.

[PebbleBall]

From IMS

My boy (Cubs fan) was sitting right behind the Cubs dugout when HOF Bo walked over to the railing.

His words, verbatim: "don't yell at me. We'll stop playing when you start playing. We'll stop playing when you start playing."



That is just impossibly great - Bo knows Natitude

I like his attitude but I've gotta admit that's a crappy strategy.

[loshjott]

Cubs (Quirk) got bent out of shape because the Nats still had their foot on the gas in a 7-2 game, bottom of 5th. Think about it. Cubs were so thoroughly beaten in their own minds that they were convinced they couldn't overcome a 5 run deficit with 4 more chances (12 outs) to come back.

It's not like it was 10-0 in the 8th inning.  Cubs had already given up and had no confidence they could come back, so they asked the Nats to pretty please, please, pretty please, let them get back to the dugout for their orange slices and juice boxes without further embarrassment.  Pathetic.

[LostYudite]

LOL are you kidding? Who are you talking to? Nats lost THREE HUNDRED GAMES in 3 years ... of course I can imagine being on the other side of this.

Nobody felt sorry for us. We were a national punching bag. Mocked by EVERYONE


I am not going to waste one second of my time feeling sorry for anyone else, particularly the impossibly bushleague asshat Cubs and their delusional cult-like insufferable fan base

Hells to the yeah.  Know why we pounded you?  Cos you're pitching is terrible.  Sorry for you - I know what that's like. Maybe Jason Simontacchi, Mike Bacsik and Jason Bergmann would help.

[LostYudite]

Nice.

Sveum's response is the only thing I've heard coming out of the Cubs' side that makes any sense to me.  That's all you can say when you're on the other side of it.  As good as the Nats played, the Cubs made it way easy in the last two games - 15 walks and 2 errors to go with the 25 hits the Nats pounded out.  With 25 hits and all the homers, we were going to score our share, but 15 walks don't help.

As for the stealing signs thing, I don't begrudge the announcers that - they're paid professionals trying to keep a fanbase engaged (and most importantly, watching) through an awful season.  They can't really sit there and say "Gee, the Nats are taking our crapbag pitchers to town tonight, just like they did last night and the night before.  I wish our pitching staff didn't suck so hard."  They've got to find some lipstick to put on that pig, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

And Bo Porter is my new hero. 

Stealth edited to avoid grammar nazi crackdown. 

[wpa2629]

Sure, I think it would matter. Stealing signs is a slightly more legitimate reason to be pissed. If they were really mad that Werth took a hellhack when we were only up by 5 in the 5th that's ridiculous.

I was just pointing out that the Cubs' announcers guesses make zero sense.

No I meant it wouldn't make any difference to the Nats if they were stealing signs - they still would have been crushing the Cubs pitching.

Regardless, Porter wasn't stealing signs, the Cubs announcers were REALLY desperate by that point

[wpa2629]

Sveum's response is the only thing I've heard coming out of the Cubs' side that makes any sense to me.  That's all you can say when you're on the other side of it.  As good as the Nats played, the Cubs made it way easy in the last two games - 15 walks and 2 errors to go with the 25 hits the Nats pounded out.  With 25 hits and all the homers, we were going to score our share, but 15 walks don't help.

As for the stealing signs thing, I don't begrudge the announcers that - their paid professionals trying to keep a fanbase engaged (and most importantly, watching) through an awful season.  They can't really sit there and say "Gee, the Nats are taking our crapbag pitchers to town tonight, just like they did last night and the night before.  I wish our pitching staff didn't suck so hard."  They've got to find some lipstick to put on that pig, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

And Bo Porter is my new hero. 

Charlie and Dave danced to Wil Nieves walk up music. That was way better and VASTLY more entertaining

It was bad enough the Cubs bench coaches completely humiliated their team,  the announcers made the Cubs an even more embarrassing and pathetic figure with their "stealing signs" conspiracy

Just garbage baseball by a truly awful team.

[Minty Fresh]

Now, I don't have a problem with what the Nats did but let's all remember this if we ever have to suffer through another season like 2009 or 2010. 

[PebbleBall]

Now, I don't have a problem with what the Nats did but let's all remember this if we ever have to suffer through another season like 2009 or 2010. 

I can't imagine being upset at a team fouling off a 3-0 pitch. 

[wpa2629]

I can't imagine being upset at a team fouling off a 3-0 pitch. 

Remember when the Tigers came to town a couple years back and kicked the ever living crap out of the Nats? I don't remember the Nats throwing at anyone or starting a brawl ...

Outside of Nyger purposely bowling over catchers for no reason ... I don't remember the Nats starting any crap at all

[Minty Fresh]

I can't imagine being upset at a team fouling off a 3-0 pitch.

Remember when the Tigers came to town a couple years back and kicked the ever living crap out of the Nats? I don't remember the Nats throwing at anyone or starting a brawl ...

Outside of Nyger purposely bowling over catchers for no reason ... I don't remember the Nats starting any crap at all

I'm just saying that if the Nats pull something like that, let's not get all righteously indignant.

[wpa2629]

I'm just saying that if the Nats pull something like that, let's not get all righteously indignant.

If the Nats pull something like that, I will be completely disgusted

[Kevrock]

Gotcha, WPA.

Cubs (Quirk) got bent out of shape because the Nats still had their foot on the gas in a 7-2 game, bottom of 5th. Think about it. Cubs were so thoroughly beaten in their own minds that they were convinced they couldn't overcome a 5 run deficit with 4 more chances (12 outs) to come back.

I know a lot here turn up their noses at baseball etiquette, but generally you can do whatever you want until you're up by 7. Then you stop stealing, hit and runs, etc. There's no rule that you swing softer or anything.

Unless Werth showed up the pitcher in some way, I'm not sure what they are mad about. It was halfway through the game and we were only up by 5. We've blown a game with a 9 run lead!

The Cubs are a bunch of babies.

[wpa2629]

[Galah]

Just want to pile on and add that ...on 6 July 2011, I watched the Nats take their foot off the gas during an 8-0 blow out of a team they were about to stomp on for a 4 game sweep....any guesses what the name of that oppossing team was???
That was a miserable game for the fans and for a pretty good Nats team at the time.  STOMP on that gas pedal!!!!

[spit]

Bo Porter has balls of steel.

Props

[blue911]

No I meant it wouldn't make any difference to the Nats if they were stealing signs - they still would have been crushing the Cubs pitching.

Regardless, Porter wasn't stealing signs, the Cubs announcers were REALLY desperate by that point

I think they were trying to find some reasonable explanation for Quirk's actions. I would say that the Cubs announcers didn't think the Nats actions in themselves warranted an outburst by Quirk.

[Minty Fresh]

It just struck me as a team completely frustrated.  I try to see it from their point of view: 

- We're starting minor leaguers
- You sent Desmond stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- You sent Espinosa stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- Jayson Werth swing on 3-0 with the bases loaded

I know they won't admit it, but Harper stretching that double into a triple probably frosted them in the first inning and when you're losing the way the Cubs are losing they probably interpreted it as rubbing it in.  We suffered through some awful baseball in 2009 and 2010 - REALLY BAD BASEBALL - and I'd admit to probably feeling the way the Cubs did if I factored all of those things into account.  I guess I just feel priviledged being the team that others think are "rubbing their noses in it."

[comish4lif]

It just struck me as a team completely frustrated.  I try to see it from their point of view: 

- We're starting minor leaguers
- You sent Desmond stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- You sent Espinosa stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- Jayson Werth swing on 3-0 with the bases loaded

I know they won't admit it, but Harper stretching that double into a triple probably frosted them in the first inning and when you're losing the way the Cubs are losing they probably interpreted it as rubbing it in.  We suffered through some awful baseball in 2009 and 2010 - REALLY BAD BASEBALL - and I'd admit to probably feeling the way the Cubs did if I factored all of those things into account.  I guess I just feel priviledged being the team that others think are "rubbing their noses in it."

I don't think that there should be anything between the lines that your #2 hitter can do in the first inning to frost you off. The game is just starting and the 3 beatings that the Cubs took already are yesterday's news. If the Cubs outfielders aren't ready for Bryce Harper to take an extra base, then, tough crap.

[comish4lif]

Remember when the Tigers came to town a couple years back and kicked the ever living crap out of the Nats? I don't remember the Nats throwing at anyone or starting a brawl ...

Outside of Nyger purposely bowling over catchers for no reason ... I don't remember the Nats starting any crap at all

They should have done something. Was that in the Manny Acta era? If so, that explains it.

I'm not saying you hit batters on purpose, but for years, Raul Ibanez has walked into Nats Park like he built it. Nats pitchers should have done a little something (back him off) to make him a little less confortable.

[Tyler Durden]

I don't think that there should be anything between the lines that your #2 hitter can do in the first inning to frost you off. The game is just starting and the 3 beatings that the Cubs took already are yesterday's news. If the Cubs outfielders aren't ready for Bryce Harper to take an extra base, then, tough crap.

Totally agree. 

But I can see why the Cubs managers would be frustrated - the accumulation of the past several days had to be embarrassing for them.  I remember wishing Manny Acta would show some emotion when we were getting our azzes handed to us repeatedly.

[PebbleBall]

It just struck me as a team completely frustrated.  I try to see it from their point of view: 

- We're starting minor leaguers
- You sent Desmond stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- You sent Espinosa stealing in a game against minor leaguers
- Jayson Werth swing on 3-0 with the bases loaded

I know they won't admit it, but Harper stretching that double into a triple probably frosted them in the first inning and when you're losing the way the Cubs are losing they probably interpreted it as rubbing it in.  We suffered through some awful baseball in 2009 and 2010 - REALLY BAD BASEBALL - and I'd admit to probably feeling the way the Cubs did if I factored all of those things into account.  I guess I just feel priviledged being the team that others think are "rubbing their noses in it."

That's how we play.

[Minty Fresh]

I don't think that there should be anything between the lines that your #2 hitter can do in the first inning to frost you off. The game is just starting and the 3 beatings that the Cubs took already are yesterday's news. If the Cubs outfielders aren't ready for Bryce Harper to take an extra base, then, tough crap.

I 100% agree, make no mistake about it. 

But they're 30+ games under .500 and frustrated; on top of that, their previous three games against us were ass-kickings.  Just trying to understand where they're coming from.