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Offline UMDNats

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1800 on: July 31, 2011, 04:11:24 pm »
to be fair, we have no idea what actually went on between Rizzo and the Astros/Twins/Rays.

Maybe the Twins wanted Storen, Bernadina and Lombo for Span and a scrub?
Maybe the Astros didn't like our prospects vs. the Braves' offer?
Maybe the Rays didn't want a scrub SS Desmond for Upton?
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Offline madj55

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1801 on: July 31, 2011, 04:12:23 pm »
I really wanted a game changing player...oh well at least we didn't lose any key pieces
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1802 on: July 31, 2011, 04:12:31 pm »
Quote from: natsfan4evr on July 31, 2011, 04:10:03 pm
Who can the Nats get through waivers?

Players. Sorry, you are making it to easy :D

Werth, Livan, Ankiel, Pudge are my guesses.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1803 on: July 31, 2011, 04:12:40 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on July 31, 2011, 04:09:05 pm
So Rizzo didn't pull the trigger on what some considered a bad trade. Does that vindicate Rizzo in their eyes?
No!

Keeping Storen is good but shouldn't have prevented us from making legit moves for MLB players
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1804 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:00 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on July 31, 2011, 04:11:24 pm
to be fair, we have no idea what actually went on between Rizzo and the Astros/Twins/Rays.

Maybe the Twins wanted Storen, Bernadina and Lombo for Span and a scrub?
Maybe the Astros didn't like our prospects vs. the Braves' offer?
Maybe the Rays didn't want a scrub SS Desmond for Upton?

I call bullcrap on the Astros thing.  Based on what Brian said the other night, we could have easily offered a better deal.
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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1805 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:22 pm »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on July 31, 2011, 04:10:18 pm
If he didn't have freaking tunnel vision, he could have looked to the Astros and gotten Bourn for peanuts

This is because he is a SUCKASS GM

He always sets his sights on one player and misses opportunities at obtaining someone comparable at a better price :bang:

Or . . .

He realized the team probably wasn't going to contend anyway, so why give up pieces who could contribute to your future just to pick up a medicore CF to appease your delirious fanbase?
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1806 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:32 pm »
Quote from: sportsnyan882 on July 31, 2011, 04:12:40 pm
No!

Keeping Storen is good but shouldn't have prevented us from making legit moves for MLB players

You know Rizzo has to negotiate trades and can't just set terms and do it, right?
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1807 on: July 31, 2011, 04:14:47 pm »
And God forbid, what if Storen goes Cordero on the Nats next year?

Will everyone be happy then?
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1808 on: July 31, 2011, 04:15:23 pm »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on July 31, 2011, 04:14:00 pm
I call bullcrap on the Astros thing.  Based on what Brian said the other night, we could have easily offered a better deal.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the Astros don't like our prospects? Ed Wade is a freaking moron. who knows.

Plus, Schafer is an MLB OF who is young, while we have...Bernadina to offer.
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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1809 on: July 31, 2011, 04:15:29 pm »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 31, 2011, 04:14:47 pm
And God forbid, what if Storen goes Cordero on the Nats next year?

Will everyone be happy then?

What if Span goes Morneau on the Twins?  Will they be happy then?

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Offline cmdterps44

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1810 on: July 31, 2011, 04:15:40 pm »
Jeez sf37 is annoying lol
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Offline Morse Code 38

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1811 on: July 31, 2011, 04:15:41 pm »
Quote from: sportsnyan882 on July 31, 2011, 04:12:40 pm
No!

Keeping Storen is good but shouldn't have prevented us from making legit moves for MLB players

Like who for who?

If we're going to overrate Storen like that, then, well, we won't have many trading partners. 

But, like UMD says above, we don't know that Rizzo was overrating Storen, we don't know what other teams wanted.
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Offline kirubel94

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1812 on: July 31, 2011, 04:16:11 pm »
why is todd coffey still with this teaM>>??
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Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1813 on: July 31, 2011, 04:16:12 pm »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 31, 2011, 04:14:47 pm
And God forbid, what if Storen goes Cordero on the Nats next year?

Will everyone be happy then?

What if he gets better?  This is a future's game, it's all about risk and speculation.
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1814 on: July 31, 2011, 04:16:16 pm »
Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 31, 2011, 04:14:22 pm
Or . . .

He realized the team probably wasn't going to contend anyway, so why give up pieces who could contribute to your future just to pick up a medicore CF to appease your delirious fanbase?

Average CF >>>>> Bad CF
Good CL >>> Average CL

Deal should have been made... but there's no point talking about it any more. It didn't happen.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1815 on: July 31, 2011, 04:16:20 pm »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 31, 2011, 04:14:47 pm
And God forbid, what if Storen goes Cordero on the Nats next year?

Will everyone be happy then?

I don't even want to consider that. But the same could be said the other way around. The player in question coming to the Nats could also have something happen to him.  
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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1816 on: July 31, 2011, 04:16:43 pm »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 31, 2011, 04:16:16 pm
Average CF >>>>> Bad CF
Good CL >>> Average CL

Deal should have been made... but there's no point talking about it any more. It didn't happen.

Then why keep bringing it up?
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1817 on: July 31, 2011, 04:17:29 pm »
Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 31, 2011, 04:15:29 pm
What if Span goes Morneau on the Twins?  Will they be happy then?



Considering the Nats balked on compensation, I'm sure they'll feel about the same as they always have.
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Offline Minty Fresh

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1818 on: July 31, 2011, 04:17:31 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on July 31, 2011, 04:16:20 pm
I don't even want to consider that. But the same could be said the otehr way around. The player in question coming to the Nats could also have something happen to him. 

The Armageddon predictions are tiring.
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Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1819 on: July 31, 2011, 04:18:06 pm »
What if Zombies take over the world??!!

:panic:
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1820 on: July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 pm »
Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 31, 2011, 04:17:31 pm
The Armageddon predictions are tiring.

Some don't enjoy year in and year out ending the season in the basement of the NL East.

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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1821 on: July 31, 2011, 04:18:28 pm »
Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 31, 2011, 04:14:22 pm
Or . . .

He realized the team probably wasn't going to contend anyway, so why give up pieces who could contribute to your future just to pick up a medicore CF to appease your delirious fanbase?

:lmao: It's amazing how some people on this board lack perspective on PROSPECTS.

How many PROSPECTS end up being good Major Leaguers?  It's a crapshoot even with top 50 (in all of MLB) prospects, and once you get below that, you're really trying to get lucky.
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1822 on: July 31, 2011, 04:18:44 pm »
I'm disappointed that our CF will continue to be a black hole of production but whatever.
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Offline wpa2629

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1823 on: July 31, 2011, 04:19:26 pm »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on July 31, 2011, 04:18:28 pm
:lmao: It's amazing how some people on this board lack perspective on PROSPECTS.

How many PROSPECTS end up being good Major Leaguers?  It's a crapshoot even with top 50 (in all of MLB) prospects, and once you get below that, you're really trying to get lucky.

Um, pretty sure Drew Storen is a Major League closer
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Offline NatsSince05

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Re: 2011 Trade Deadline Watch Watch
« Reply #1824 on: July 31, 2011, 04:19:27 pm »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on July 31, 2011, 04:10:18 pm
He always sets his sights on one player and misses opportunities at obtaining someone comparable at a better price :bang:
Very, very good point.
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