Author Topic: 2011 Trade Watch (was trade deadline watch) (Read 86600 times)

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1450 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:16:35 am »

Span has been out with a concussion for two months? Is that right? That's a huge red flag as far as I'm concerned. Never mind that the Twins want way too frickin much for him. I think the Twins are still bitter over Capps/Ramos, not that I blame them per se, but no one forced them to make that trade.

The Nats need to move on from the Twins. The whole thing is starting to really stink.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #1451 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:19:54 am »

Quote from: UMDNats on July 30, 2011, 10:45:59 pm

Her twitter picture doesn't do her justice. She's cute.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7149919@N02/4539372615/

I'm no Ladson hater, but I'd trade him and throw in either Zuckerman or Goess to get her into Nats Park on a regular basis.

Kevrock · « **Reply #1452 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:20:59 am »

MLBTR:

Latest On Storen/Span Trade Talks
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 7:59am CST]

Nationals closer Drew Storen is in the Denard Span trade with the Twins, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, but the hangup is over the other players in the deal. Yesterday we heard names such as Roger Bernadina and Stephen Lombardozzi of the Nationals.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1453 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:22:07 am »

That's too damn much. I hope Rizzo is working something else. Go get Bourn he'll cost prospects, not ML players.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #1454 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:26:56 am »

Quote from: Kevrock on July 31, 2011, 09:20:59 am

MLBTR:

Latest On Storen/Span Trade Talks
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 7:59am CST]

Nationals closer Drew Storen is in the Denard Span trade with the Twins, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, but the hangup is over the other players in the deal. Yesterday we heard names such as Roger Bernadina and Stephen Lombardozzi of the Nationals.

If it's Storen AND Lomardozzi, I'll puke.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #1455 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:31:24 am »

Quote from: Kevrock on July 31, 2011, 09:20:59 am

MLBTR:

Latest On Storen/Span Trade Talks
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 7:59am CST]

Nationals closer Drew Storen is in the Denard Span trade with the Twins, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, but the hangup is over the other players in the deal. Yesterday we heard names such as Roger Bernadina and Stephen Lombardozzi of the Nationals.

Bernie OK. Not Lombo. He is our future 2B.

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 09:22:07 am

That's too damn much. I hope Rizzo is working something else. Go get Bourn he'll cost prospects, not ML players.

That is OK also . I love Storen but I do not think he is a dominating closer. Last night was a good example. I do not have the data to back this up so I assume that this is a mindfact. Only about 50% of his appearences seem clean. One or less batters getting on.Not as bad as the Chief but not a comforting occurence.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #1456 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:32:04 am »

Just get freakin upton already.

Kevrock · « **Reply #1457 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:33:17 am »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 31, 2011, 09:26:56 am

If it's Storen AND Lomardozzi, I'll puke.

Can't happen. Sounds/looks like they are ready to give up on Desmond, they can't trade Lombo.

I wouldn't puke, I would change my name to kev37 and go bonkers on the Rzo.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1458 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:35:19 am »

Quote from: aspenbubba on July 31, 2011, 09:31:24 am

Bernie OK. Not Lombo. He is our future 2B.

That is OK also . I love Storen but I do not think he is a dominating closer. Last night was a good example. I do not have the data to back this up so I assume that this is a mindfact. Only about 50% of his appearences seem clean. One or less batters getting on.Not as bad as the Chief but not a comforting occurence.

Meh, I throw out last night's performance, it was was a very weird situation for him, with the trade deadline and not pitching for a while and the standing O the crowd gave him when he came in. Must have been weird.

Storen is a very good pitcher and he's very young, he's only going to get better IMO. He's a really good dude and he genuinely cares about the Nats and the fans. He can truly be one of those "core" guys. I hope he stays.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #1459 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:38:21 am »

I think I draw the line at Storen and Lombo. I'd pull the trigger straight up (this is all assuming that his medical reports turn out fine), and I would even consider Storen, Berny, and Desmond (although I'd have to consider it strongly). But Lombo is too much.

comish4lif · « **Reply #1460 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:42:26 am »

Quote from: aspenbubba on July 31, 2011, 09:31:24 am

Bernie OK. Not Lombo. He is our future 2B.

That is OK also . I love Storen but I do not think he is a dominating closer. Last night was a good example. I do not have the data to back this up so I assume that this is a mindfact. Only about 50% of his appearences seem clean. One or less batters getting on.Not as bad as the Chief but not a comforting occurence.

I don't have the data either, but I think most closers aren't clean every night. Except for someone like Mariano.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1461 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:49:01 am »

uh oh

AdamKilgoreWP Adam Kilgore
NL East gets no easier. RT @Ken_Rosenthal #Braves' deal for #Astros' Bourn is done. Announcement at 10 a.m. ET. #tradedeadline #MLB

blue911 · « **Reply #1462 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:49:47 am »

Quote from: comish4lif on July 31, 2011, 09:42:26 am

I don't have the data either, but I think most closers aren't clean every night. Except for someone like Mariano.

He came in with a 3 run lead and left with a 3 run lead, what more do people want?

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #1463 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:50:01 am »

Might as well buy some real estate in the basement.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #1464 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:50:20 am »

Quote from: PatsNats28 on July 31, 2011, 09:38:21 am

I think I draw the line at Storen and Lombo. I'd pull the trigger straight up (this is all assuming that his medical reports turn out fine), and I would even consider Storen, Berny, and Desmond (although I'd have to consider it strongly). But Lombo is too much.

I'm not a big fan of trades in general, they are double the risk of signing a free agent. Signing a guy in the off-season is risky if they don't play up to expectations, but at least the monetary value paid for them is set. Trading for a player bears the same risk of under-performance, but also includes the risk of giving up a player whose value increases.

Slateman · « **Reply #1465 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:50:51 am »

Just read it. Damn it.

houston-nat · « **Reply #1466 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:52:30 am »

Quote from: wpa2629 on July 31, 2011, 09:49:01 am

uh oh

AdamKilgoreWP Adam Kilgore
NL East gets no easier. RT @Ken_Rosenthal #Braves' deal for #Astros' Bourn is done. Announcement at 10 a.m. ET. #tradedeadline #MLB

fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

PC · « **Reply #1467 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:53:57 am »

Quote

Braves Acquire Michael Bourn
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 8:46am CST]

The Braves acquired center fielder Michael Bourn from the Astros for four minor leaguers, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. He says the deal is done and will be announced shortly.

I thought they wanted major leaguers!

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1468 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:54:19 am »

Ugh

Now I want us to stand pat. I don't want to trade Storen or Clippard or Lombo or Bernie. Ugh

imref · « **Reply #1469 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:54:21 am »

let's see what they gave up. So far the Phillies gave up to top-50 prospects for Pence.

For us, it keeps coming down to the real lack of depth in our farm system, despite major improvements in the last 2 years.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1470 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:54:50 am »

Quote from: PC on July 31, 2011, 09:53:57 am

I thought they wanted major leaguers!

No, the astros wanted minor leagueres

PANatsFan · « **Reply #1471 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:55:19 am »

Quote from: hammondsnats on July 31, 2011, 09:32:04 am

Just get freakin upton already.

No, it has to be span now. Has to. Upton's OBP is putrid.

Smithian · « **Reply #1472 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:56:16 am »

Damnit. Bourn was so perfect. At least the Braves will still get pwnt by lefties.

freak the Twins. They're trying to get us to bend over so they can feel better about the Capps trade. Let's just go trade for Bourjos and call it a fun day.

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1473 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:56:22 am »

wpa2629 · « **Reply #1474 on:** July 31, 2011, 09:56:43 am »

Quote from: Smithian on July 31, 2011, 09:56:16 am

Damnit. Bourn was so perfect. At least the Braves will still get pwnt by lefties.

freak the Twins. They're trying to get us to bend over so they can feel better about the Capps trade. Let's just go trade for Bourjos and call it a fun day.

Yeah! Let's do that!