Author Topic: 2011 Trade Watch (was trade deadline watch) (Read 85444 times)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #150 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:18:14 am »

I was thinking a lineup of this...

CF - Span
2B - Lombardozzi
3B - Zimmerman
1B - Morse
SS - Espinosa
RF - Werth
LF - Nix/Hairston
C - Ramos

Would be pretty damn impressive.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #151 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:21:05 am »

Since I love making lineups:

1. Span
2. Zimmerman
3. Werth/Nix
4. Morse
5. Espinosa
6. Nix/Werth
7. Lombardozzi
8. Ramos

Slateman · « **Reply #152 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:24:17 am »

Well if we're making lineups ...

1. Span
2. Lombardozzi
3. Pujols

4. Zimmerman
5. Morse
6. Espinosa
7. Werth
8. Ramos

hammondsnats · « **Reply #153 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:38:30 am »

Quote from: PatsNats28 on July 26, 2011, 11:21:05 am

Since I love making lineups:

1. Span
2. Zimmerman
3. Werth/Nix
4. Morse
5. Espinosa
6. Nix/Werth
7. Lombardozzi
8. Ramos

i like this one best, but switch lombo and ramos.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #154 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:42:54 am »

as much as i hate them, you have to give credit to teams like the phillies and red sox who are willing to add payroll before the deadline.

i wish we would do that one day ... oh who am i kidding

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #155 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:04:14 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 25, 2011, 09:29:09 pm

Rizzo lied about Maya. He said they scouted him at 94 MPH. He was never close to that.

Maybe they use the metric system in Cuba?

UMDNats · « **Reply #156 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:05:09 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on July 26, 2011, 11:18:14 am

I was thinking a lineup of this...

CF - Span
2B - Lombardozzi
3B - Zimmerman
1B - Morse
SS - Espinosa
RF - Werth
LF - Nix/Hairston
C - Ramos

Would be pretty damn impressive.

imref · « **Reply #157 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:06:58 pm »

MLBTR:

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The Rays are "asking for a ton" for Upton, an AL official tells Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The official says the Rays are "definitely shopping him." Five teams are "in play" for Upton, a source tells Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter link).

IronPig · « **Reply #158 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:10:36 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on July 26, 2011, 11:42:54 am

as much as i hate them, you have to give credit to teams like the phillies and red sox who are willing to add payroll before the deadline.

i wish we would do that one day ... oh who am i kidding

Eventually they will. They took a risk on Werth, but frankly it was just a bad job scouting the guy. Surprising since he was in the division and played the Nats so often.

Washington needs to go after arms, it takes a ton of pressure off the offense. That is where they should look to spend their money, IMO.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #159 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:13:34 pm »

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jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Hearing mixed opinions on whether #Nats will move Marquis.

Why the hell wouldn't they move Marquis?

imref · « **Reply #160 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:15:32 pm »

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Philadelphia is most likely to get Giambi, writes Renck, which makes sense -- he could be the Phillies' next Matt Stairs.

UMDNats · « **Reply #161 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:18:35 pm »

Quote from: sportsnyan882 on July 26, 2011, 12:13:34 pm

Why the hell wouldn't they move Marquis?

Seriously. I hope we don't sign him. Where does Wang go if we don't trade him? Six-man rotation? Gorzelanny to the pen? Too many issues. Just move him.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #162 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:22:57 pm »

If Wang and Marquis are here next year in the rotation we're in trouble.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #163 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:24:17 pm »

Quote from: imref on July 26, 2011, 12:06:58 pm

MLBTR:

reading the article i look it as the cards are asking for a lot of rasmus, not rays for upton. i could be wrong though.

NatsSince05 · « **Reply #164 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:25:32 pm »

I think the plan is to trade Marquis and fill his spot with CMW. I've read articles before about loyal Wang feels to the Nationals for giving him another chance, and if he does well, he'll almost certainly re-sign here next year if we still want him. Although with Strasburg coming back and Peacock possibly coming up, we might not need him anyway.

Kevrock · « **Reply #165 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:41:23 pm »

Quote from: IronPig on July 26, 2011, 12:10:36 pm

They took a risk on Werth, but frankly it was just a bad job scouting the guy. Surprising since he was in the division and played the Nats so often.

Werth raked last year. What was there to scout that they missed?

kirubel94 · « **Reply #166 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:41:35 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on July 26, 2011, 12:24:17 pm

reading the article i look it as the cards are asking for a lot of rasmus, not rays for upton. i could be wrong though.

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The Rays are "asking for a ton" for Upton, an AL official tells Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The official says the Rays are "definitely shopping him." Five teams are "in play" for Upton, a source tells Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter link).

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/rays-asking-for-a-ton-for-bj-upton.html

Evolution33 · « **Reply #167 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:42:51 pm »

I don't know what good trading Marquis does. I can't imagine the Nats getting much of anything for him, but since no one has been traded anywhere the market isn't really set.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #168 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:50:01 pm »

Quote from: kirubel94 on July 26, 2011, 12:41:35 pm

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/rays-asking-for-a-ton-for-bj-upton.html

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The Cards would increase pursuit of Upton if they could use Colby Rasmus to add pitching.

An AL official said, "They are denying publicly they will trade him, but they are definitely shopping him. They are asking for a ton."

Tampa Bay and Boston are interested in Rasmus, among others.

IronPig · « **Reply #169 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:15:13 pm »

Quote from: Kevrock on July 26, 2011, 12:41:23 pm

Werth raked last year. What was there to scout that they missed?

Raked? You have to look where a guy played. He was protected in that lineup last year. He had 147 KOs last year and the Phillies were looking to get rid of him before he got hot.

He had a good year, but not $120+ Million kind of good year.

And I'd take Giambi - as i'm assuming the lol @ Matt Stairs has to do with what he has done with the Nats.

kirubel94 · « **Reply #170 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:16:29 pm »

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Cards now appear to be shopping Rasmus widely. Nationals, who need CF and have pitching, had scout in STL last night. #tradedeadline

http://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/95901772572401666

Evolution33 · « **Reply #171 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:19:34 pm »

Quote from: IronPig on July 26, 2011, 01:15:13 pm

Raked? You have to look where a guy played. He was protected in that lineup last year. He had 147 KOs last year and the Phillies were looking to get rid of him before he got hot.

He had a good year, but not $120+ Million kind of good year.

And I'd take Giambi - as i'm assuming the lol @ Matt Stairs has to do with what he has done with the Nats.

He was the best hitter on the best team in the NL. I would define that as raking.

http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Phillies&pos=all&stats=bat&qual=400&type=8&season=2010&month=0&season1=2010

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #172 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:22:49 pm »

Quote from: kirubel94 on July 26, 2011, 01:16:29 pm

http://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/95901772572401666

Rasmus had a good game last night too. 1/3 with a HR, 3 RBIs, 2 Runs, and a walk.

Kevrock · « **Reply #173 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:23:43 pm »

Quote from: IronPig on July 26, 2011, 01:15:13 pm

Raked? You have to look where a guy played. He was protected in that lineup last year. He had 147 KOs last year and the Phillies were looking to get rid of him before he got hot.

He had a good year, but not $120+ Million kind of good year.

Yes, he raked. I believe he was top 10 in OPS+ last year. He wasn't as protected as you might think last year, he carried that lineup while everyone else was on the DL.

I didn't say anything about his contract. I asked what scouts should have noticed last year that would tell of his 2011 woes.

IronPig · « **Reply #174 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:26:43 pm »

Quote from: Kevrock on July 26, 2011, 01:23:43 pm

Yes, he raked. I believe he was top 10 in OPS+ last year. He wasn't as protected as you might think last year, he carried that lineup while everyone else was on the DL.

He certainly did not carry the team.

His high KO ratio - he simply doesnt have the power numbers to justify the number of K's he has. His doubles were up last year, but RBIs, HR's were both down from the previous year.

The first half of the season he was not very good - he is a good hitter on a good team, try and make him a focal point player and he is not going to carry a lineup offensively. Nothing in his career (if you watched him play on a daily basis) should have made any scout think he could.

I didn't say anything about his contract. I asked what scouts should have noticed last year that would tell of his 2011 woes.