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Offline RD

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1800 on: August 26, 2011, 11:14:05 pm »
Martis should win the Nationals' Minor League Pitcher of the Year, this season.  He's been outstanding.

No he shouldn't. Peacock's got him beat easily. More K's, ERA lower by half a run, and he's spent part of the year at AAA. It's a pretty easy decision.

It has been a very good year for Martis though. I can't believe he's still only 24 years old.

Offline kirubel94

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1801 on: August 26, 2011, 11:14:22 pm »
He's getting called up.


Hopefully, tyler gets the promotion to AAA tomorrow.

Offline sportsfan882

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« Reply #1802 on: August 26, 2011, 11:22:43 pm »
No he shouldn't. Peacock's got him beat easily. More K's, ERA lower by half a run, and he's spent part of the year at AAA. It's a pretty easy decision.

It has been a very good year for Martis though. I can't believe he's still only 24 years old.
Yup, people forget how young Martis still is. Has a killer changeup

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1803 on: August 26, 2011, 11:23:17 pm »
Hopefully, tyler gets the promotion to AAA tomorrow.
No way, the Senators need him for their Playoff run

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1804 on: August 26, 2011, 11:23:53 pm »
Yup, people forget how young Martis still is. Has a killer changeup
Your favorite advanced stat?

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1805 on: August 26, 2011, 11:27:11 pm »
When was the last time you saw him?

Sat next to him and big game Ollie about two months ago when they were in town facing Richmond. I think I posted about it.

Edit: Here it is.

I really want to punch Ollie. He has massive diamond studs in both ears.

Martis is much fatter in person than I was expecting.

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« Reply #1806 on: August 27, 2011, 04:58:39 am »
Dump him in the offseason and watch him become a #5 SP elsewhere

He has dominated AA.

I'm not expecting to call him up or anything but I was wondering if he'll be called up to AAA or flipped in the off season while stock is "high".

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1807 on: August 27, 2011, 09:30:46 am »
SF i remember what martis was like in the majors and quite frankly i don't want to see that again.

Offline houston-nat

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1808 on: August 27, 2011, 09:33:42 am »
SF i remember what martis was like in the majors and quite frankly i don't want to see that again.

1. That was two years ago
2. He's only 24 and appears to have learned something new this year (compare stats to last year)
3. He was a solid major-league starter for about a month before crumbling

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« Reply #1809 on: August 27, 2011, 09:36:12 am »
1. That was two years ago
2. He's only 24 and appears to have learned something new this year (compare stats to last year)
3. He was a solid major-league starter for about a month before crumbling

to each his own.  i say stay away.

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1810 on: August 27, 2011, 10:08:52 am »
to each his own.  i say stay away.

Yeah, there's no way he could possibly improve. Ceiling met.  :roll:

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1811 on: August 27, 2011, 10:11:26 am »
Yeah, there's no way he could possibly improve. Ceiling met.  :roll:

i'm not saying he can't improve, i just remember what i saw.  he's tearing up AA, good for him and the organization. 

i just don't see him having a future here and i think we have better arms. 

sorry.

Offline PatsNats28

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« Reply #1812 on: August 27, 2011, 10:43:11 am »
i'm not saying he can't improve, i just remember what i saw.  he's tearing up AA, good for him and the organization. 

i just don't see him having a future here and i think we have better arms. 

sorry.

irrational post is irrational.

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1813 on: August 27, 2011, 10:49:51 am »
irrational post is irrational.

what?  and it looks like the organization doesn't think much of him if he's in AA. 

sorry, it's not mandatory to think highly of every prospect in our system, geez.

Offline PatsNats28

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« Reply #1814 on: August 27, 2011, 11:04:54 am »
That's not what I'm saying, and you know it. You are saying that what he does in AA is essentially irrelevant because he did poorly more than two years ago as a 22 year old.

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« Reply #1815 on: August 27, 2011, 11:06:19 am »
That's not what I'm saying, and you know it. You are saying that what he does in AA is essentially irrelevant because he did poorly more than two years ago as a 22 year old.

how hard is it for you to understand i just don't think he has what it takes to make it in the bigs.  just leave it at that. 

i'm not rooting against him or anything.  he'll probably get another look in another organization.

Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1816 on: August 27, 2011, 11:10:02 am »
how hard is it for you to understand i just don't think he has what it takes to make it in the bigs.  just leave it at that. 

i'm not rooting against him or anything.  he'll probably get another look in another organization.

Where did I suggest that you were rooting against him? Maybe you subconsciously feel the need to defend yourself of that though.

You don't think he has "what it takes" based on what? What you are saying is that he doesn't have "what it takes" based on what you saw him do two years ago.

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1817 on: August 27, 2011, 11:14:04 am »
Where did I suggest that you were rooting against him? Maybe you subconsciously feel the need to defend yourself of that though.

You don't think he has "what it takes" based on what? What you are saying is that he doesn't have "what it takes" based on what you saw him do two years ago.

i've seen his stuff, i just don't think it's that good. 

and his makeup was awful back then, but obviously it must be getting better.  all i'm saying is he's stored away in AA behind some of our other prospects who - in my opinion - are better than martis. 

Offline houston-nat

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« Reply #1818 on: August 27, 2011, 11:59:07 am »
how hard is it for you to understand i just don't think he has what it takes to make it in the bigs.  just leave it at that. 

i'm not rooting against him or anything.  he'll probably get another look in another organization.

Yeah but you have bad evidence for thinking that. If you were at Harrisburg last week and his stuff was bad, then I would be more inclined to believe you. But the numbers suggest that he's just plain pitching better.

Offline UMDNats

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« Reply #1819 on: August 27, 2011, 12:00:30 pm »
Yeah but you have bad evidence for thinking that. If you were at Harrisburg last week and his stuff was bad, then I would be more inclined to believe you. But the numbers suggest that he's just plain pitching better.

He's actually striking out hitters for the first time in his career (while not walking very many). It's not crazy to believe that he's finally putting it all together at the age of 24.

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« Reply #1820 on: August 27, 2011, 12:03:13 pm »
Yeah but you have bad evidence for thinking that. If you were at Harrisburg last week and his stuff was bad, then I would be more inclined to believe you. But the numbers suggest that he's just plain pitching better.

i have bad evidence?  yeah i guess what i saw when he was up here doesn't count?  or on some of the games online i've seen of him in the minors. 

is it possible he's become a completely new pitcher?  yeah sure, awesome, maybe it'll help us one day.  maybe it'll help someone else. 


Offline PatsNats28

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« Reply #1821 on: August 27, 2011, 12:09:30 pm »
i've seen his stuff, i just don't think it's that good. 

and his makeup was awful back then, but obviously it must be getting better.  all i'm saying is he's stored away in AA behind some of our other prospects who - in my opinion - are better than martis. 

Your opinion is changing now. At first it was:

SF i remember what martis was like in the majors and quite frankly i don't want to see that again.

And now it's that he would block other arms. Granted, there are better prospects in the system. Yet you now stray from your original rationale that what you saw in the majors two years ago is what you will see if he comes up again.

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1822 on: August 27, 2011, 12:14:27 pm »
Your opinion is changing now. At first it was:

And now it's that he would block other arms. Granted, there are better prospects in the system. Yet you now stray from your original rationale that what you saw in the majors two years ago is what you will see if he comes up again.

you are dense man.  i said i didn't like what i saw from him when he was up here.  we have better arms.  

but if it'll get you to stop crying, let's bring him up and make him our #2 starter behind strasburg.  you and SF can be happy :thumbs: 8)

Offline PatsNats28

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« Reply #1823 on: August 27, 2011, 12:15:41 pm »
:lol: if you insist.

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Re: Following the Minor League Teams (2011)
« Reply #1824 on: August 27, 2011, 01:39:59 pm »
His makeup/work ethic can't be all that much changed. He's still fat and out of shape.