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Offline PatsNats28

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #300: June 06, 2011, 10:14:21 PM »
i was a klej fan :(

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #301: June 06, 2011, 10:21:54 PM »
Going into tonights game
                       W  L  ERA  G  GF SV  IP    H   R  ER HR BB  SO
Mike MacDougal  0  1  1.86 25  4   1 19.1  18   5  4   1   10  14 

That's classic Klej

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #302: June 07, 2011, 01:03:51 AM »
That's classic Klej

No it's not.  If it were, his ERA would be about 3 times higher.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #303: June 07, 2011, 05:36:33 PM »
That's not the happy guy I remember


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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #304: June 07, 2011, 06:37:13 PM »
He's definitely having a rough time.  I for one would be really interested to know the reason for his prolonged slump.  I find it very difficult to believe that it's a simple matter of aging.  Possible, sure - Andruw Jones fell right off of a cliff, after all.  But I just don't think that's what's happening with Dunn.  Of course, if it really is the whole mental aspect of DH-ing, we'll never really know for sure, and everyone will go with whatever best suits their biases.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #305: June 07, 2011, 06:58:34 PM »
Going into tonights game
                       W  L  ERA  G  GF SV  IP    H   R  ER HR BB  SO
Mike MacDougal  0  1  1.86 25  4   1 19.1  18   5  4   1   10  14

Don't we already have that guy? I believe his name is Kimball.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #306: June 07, 2011, 07:05:03 PM »
He's definitely having a rough time.  I for one would be really interested to know the reason for his prolonged slump.  I find it very difficult to believe that it's a simple matter of aging.  Possible, sure - Andruw Jones fell right off of a cliff, after all.  But I just don't think that's what's happening with Dunn.  Of course, if it really is the whole mental aspect of DH-ing, we'll never really know for sure, and everyone will go with whatever best suits their biases.

AL pitching?

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #307: June 07, 2011, 07:06:17 PM »
AL pitching?

Nah. He's seeing more fastballs then ever. His mind has been kidnapped by flying monkeys.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #308: June 07, 2011, 07:09:51 PM »
AL pitching?

Blue will punch you in the nuts for saying that.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #309: June 07, 2011, 07:10:35 PM »
Blue will punch you in the nuts for saying that.

It's an agenda-free suggestion, though :mg:

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #310: June 07, 2011, 07:13:33 PM »
It's an agenda-free suggestion, though :mg:

I'll still punch you in the nuts. Hell, I'll punch Nathan in the nuts for good measure

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #311: June 07, 2011, 07:14:00 PM »
:punch:

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #312: June 07, 2011, 08:52:10 PM »
Don't we already have that guy? I believe his name is Kimball.
Kinda Kool Knickname Kouldbe "Klej" Kimball

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #313: June 07, 2011, 08:53:33 PM »
Nah. He's seeing more fastballs then ever. His mind has been kidnapped by flying monkeys.
Flying Monkeys like Peter Tork on LSD?

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #314: June 07, 2011, 08:59:22 PM »
Flying Monkeys like Peter Tork on LSD?

I saw Peter Tork live in Jammin' Java in Vienna a few years ago.  He's an excellent musician.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #315: June 08, 2011, 12:25:59 PM »
Ex-Nationals position players who have played in the American League(50+ ABs) this year

                         G   AB  R    H  2B 3B HR RBI  SB CS BB  K   BA   OBP  SLG   OPS
Endy Chavez      15  52  12  21  4    1   2   6     3   0   5    4 .404 .456  .635  1.091
Adam Dunn       54  188 17 33  10   0   5  23    0   1  36  80 .176  .314 .309   .623
Austin Kearns    27   78   8  15   4   1  0     2    0   2    9  27 .192  .292 .269   .561
Adam Kennedy  48  147 20 42   9    0  5   18   5   0   10  17 .286  .327 .449   .776
Ryn Langerhans 19   52   6   9   0    0  3    6    0   1   11  22 .173  .317 .346   .664
Felipe Lopez      31   94   8  21   4    0  2    8    1   1    4  28 .223  .255 .330   .585
Corey Patterson 52  210 32 59  13   3  5   28   8   5   10  42 .281  .311 .443   .754
Josh Willingham 55  197 24 48  10   0 10  39    3   1  20  68 .244 .323  .447   .770










Offline PatsNats28

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #316: June 08, 2011, 12:35:23 PM »
Endy Chavez :rofl:

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #317: June 08, 2011, 01:29:43 PM »
Dunn to take a few games off to clear his head :lmao:

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CHICAGO -- White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen is almost out of ideas for helping struggling slugger Adam Dunn break out of a season-long funk that has him hitting just .176 with five home runs and 23 RBIs through 188 at bats.

Guillen's most recent idea is sitting Dunn down for a few games to help him hit a reset button on his season mentally -- starting with Tuesday night's game against the Mariners and ace Felix Hernandez.

"I'm going to do it with Dunn the same way I did it with [Alex] Rios," Guillen said. "A couple days out of the lineup hopefully will refresh his mind, [let him] pull his stuff together and hopefully start over. That's the reason why I did it. Hopefully a little break for a couple days will recharge his batteries."

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #318: June 08, 2011, 01:36:03 PM »
Dunn to take a few games off to clear his head :lmao:


Worked wonders for Dan Uggla :hang:.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #319: June 08, 2011, 02:06:52 PM »
Does anyone else recall when Zimmerman was in a terrible slump and SF was calling for the manager to give Zimmerman a couple of days off for him to clear his head?

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #320: June 08, 2011, 02:59:26 PM »
:shock: SF is Ozzie Guillen!!!

Wait, no, SF is too calm and collected to be Ozzie.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #321: June 08, 2011, 03:03:50 PM »
Maybe Dunn is hurt.

Offline NatsDad14

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #322: June 08, 2011, 03:45:24 PM »
Does anyone else recall when Zimmerman was in a terrible slump and SF was calling for the manager to give Zimmerman a couple of days off for him to clear his head?
Every time I hear SF say something about a non-nats player/former nats player, I just imagine he said the opposite thing about a Nationals players. It works 88% of the time.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #323: June 08, 2011, 06:14:07 PM »
Nick johnson called up to the indians.

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Re: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011)
« Reply #324: June 09, 2011, 12:02:19 PM »
Adam Dunn is prominently featured as a high draft player who has grossly underperformed, by ESPN.com's Tristan H. Cockcroft:

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=hitparade110608

Adam Dunn, Chicago White Sox (Ave. Draft Pick: 31, Current Player Rater: 290): Like Uggla, Dunn is 31 years old, with many of the same problems. Stark also addressed the Dunn topic, as did Eric Karabell on Monday; I generally agree with Eric on the "you've got one more week" approach with Dunn, but I bet we'd both admit it might be our tendency to preach patience talking.


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Dunn, again like Uggla, has had fastball issues in 2011; he's a .165/.310/.243 hitter against them this season, after .309/.399/.652 in 2009-10 combined. There's a key difference between the two, however: Dunn isn't improving in that department with time, and as a result, he's actually seeing an increased rate of fastballs in recent weeks. Through April, 54.4 percent of the pitches he saw were fastballs, 6.9 percent sinkers; since May 1, those numbers have risen to 59.3 and 9.5. Dunn is also a .197/.351/.311 hitter against fastballs since May 1, only marginally improved upon his .174/.309/.261 rates before that date. And surely you've heard all about his miserable performance against lefties, 1-for-42 (.024 avg.) so far. Clearly he's not adjusting, and American League pitchers are challenging him more as a result.

Nevertheless, just like Uggla, Dunn's problems are unlikely a decline in skills, and in his case, he actually has a wider array of explanations for them: the league change, the adaptation to designated hitter -- though his .296/.449/.648 rates in 16 career games as a National League DH during interleague play suggest otherwise -- and his hasty return after an April 5 emergency appendectomy. Those make me slightly more confident in Dunn's ability to bounce back than Uggla's, but at the same time, there aren't any hints that such a bounce-back is imminent.

That is what presents a dilemma, and it's why Dunn and Uggla are so perfectly linked, both in terms of their age and comparably poor performances to date: They're names so familiar in fantasy, so trusted over multiple seasons, and probably so sensible to keep around if you drafted them merely because of their track records and the fact that their numbers really can't go anywhere but up. They're also players with whom patience could mean another three weeks of terrible statistics before a modest rebound -- one that might merely be a "law-of-averages" product, and a so-so one at that -- and those three additional weeks of bad stats would only cut even deeper.