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Offline HondoKillebrew

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4725 on: September 02, 2023, 09:34:56 pm »
Im hoping this is the delay.

Like I said, I dont know if Rizzo doesnt know how to hire to implement and utilize analytics and advanced player development, or if the Lerners are not letting him buy what he needs.

This is the critical question.

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4726 on: September 02, 2023, 10:19:41 pm »
Snyder seems available

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« Reply #4727 on: September 03, 2023, 09:05:39 am »
Im hoping this is the delay.

Like I said, I dont know if Rizzo doesnt know how to hire to implement and utilize analytics and advanced player development, or if the Lerners are not letting him buy what he needs.

Now that DiPuglia is gone, we’re about to see how good he is at setting up an academy

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« Reply #4728 on: September 03, 2023, 09:39:18 am »
Now that DiPuglia is gone, we’re about to see how good he is at setting up an academy
Meh, Im less concerned. To be honest, I was surprised it took so long for DiPuglia to leave. Would have thought someone would have grabbed him up sooner.

Need Rizzo to hire from outside the org to replace him.

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4729 on: September 06, 2023, 05:58:41 pm »
https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1699539448940130327?s=21

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The Nationals have informed six pro scouts they will not return, sources tell me and @BrittGhiroli. Those let go: Special asst’s Willie Fraser, John Mirabelli, Mike Pagliarulo, Matt Ruebel, Jon Weil, plus pro scout Jeff Harris. Cuts also made on amateur and int’l side.

But wait, there's more: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1699540436832981243?t=OQ4BiXbLyNmkHtVj9IGPiw&s=19

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These cuts come at a time when president of baseball operations Mike Rizzo still has not agreed to an extension and the Nationals are for sale. All of the pro scouts let go were hired within the last two years.

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4730 on: September 06, 2023, 06:19:02 pm »
Fiasco. No wonder DiPuglia left. It's like that BS about expanding staff last winter and upgrading the development staff was BS. Maybe they are keeping the analytics they added? Not very Rizzo.

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4731 on: September 06, 2023, 06:20:04 pm »
Pags I thought was an NPB/KBO guy?

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« Reply #4732 on: September 06, 2023, 07:35:16 pm »
TalkNats says the holdup on a Rizzo extension is the number of years. Team is reportedly offering two guaranteed with a team option for a third

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« Reply #4733 on: September 06, 2023, 07:55:55 pm »
Fiasco. No wonder DiPuglia left. It's like that BS about expanding staff last winter and upgrading the development staff was BS. Maybe they are keeping the analytics they added? Not very Rizzo.

The team was for sale. Now it’s not and the lerners are going to run it as cheaply as possible

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« Reply #4734 on: September 06, 2023, 08:03:07 pm »
The team was for sale. Now it’s not and the lerners are going to run it as cheaply as possible
The team is still for sale. The actually hangup is MASN devaluing the franchise and Ted Leonsis not budging until MASN is resolved. Who knows if/when that will be resolved, but it sure looks like the Lerner group is going to run bottom dollar until they get their payout.

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4735 on: September 06, 2023, 08:12:29 pm »
The team is still for sale. The actually hangup is MASN devaluing the franchise and Ted Leonsis not budging until MASN is resolved. Who knows if/when that will be resolved, but it sure looks like the Lerner group is going to run bottom dollar until they get their payout.
Do we actually know the team is still for sale?

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« Reply #4736 on: September 06, 2023, 08:41:41 pm »
LAC. I mean they are still paying Strasburg to not pitch. Why not pay some scouts?

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« Reply #4737 on: September 06, 2023, 09:09:49 pm »
The team is still for sale. The actually hangup is MASN devaluing the franchise and Ted Leonsis not budging until MASN is resolved. Who knows if/when that will be resolved, but it sure looks like the Lerner group is going to run bottom dollar until they get their payout.

If we’re waiting for MASN to be relied, my grandkids will get to celebrate new ownership

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« Reply #4738 on: September 06, 2023, 09:16:55 pm »
Lerners need to go.

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« Reply #4739 on: September 06, 2023, 09:53:49 pm »
Mini Me has learned from his father to keep as few pennies as possible in the jar for scouts and coaches.

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« Reply #4740 on: September 06, 2023, 10:48:09 pm »
Rizzo asked by the junkies this morning if he wanted to stay:

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Definitely, this has been my home for 17 years. ... I plan to be here a long time beyond that. ... I'm happy here. ... I certainly want to be part of the next championship club.


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« Reply #4742 on: September 07, 2023, 02:04:18 pm »
Dougherty:
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"Rizzo is still negotiating with ownership, according to three people with knowledge of his situation"

"More turnover could be on the way, potentially affecting the amateur scouting department and player development staff."

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Re: Fire Rizzo
« Reply #4743 on: September 08, 2023, 10:57:18 am »
The organization seems doomed unless Rizzo is the one firing all these folks.

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« Reply #4744 on: September 08, 2023, 11:03:42 am »
The organization seems doomed unless Rizzo is the one firing all these folks.
yeah. if we're on a wave of cost cutting then that's not good.

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« Reply #4745 on: September 08, 2023, 11:07:37 am »
The organization seems doomed unless Rizzo is the one firing all these folks.
Pretty much. All we heard is for two or three years was how much the front office wanted to expand. Now they're cutting people.

Only hope is that this is to get the team sold

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« Reply #4746 on: September 08, 2023, 11:07:49 am »
yeah. if we're on a wave of cost cutting then that's not good.

What else would you call firing scouts en masse and not replacing them?

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« Reply #4747 on: September 08, 2023, 11:10:04 am »
What else would you call firing scouts en masse and not replacing them?
too soon to know if they are being replaced

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« Reply #4748 on: September 08, 2023, 11:10:30 am »
Pretty much. All we heard is for two or three years was how much the front office wanted to expand. Now they're cutting people.

Only hope is that this is to get the team sold

The team can't be valued unless MASN is settled and the MASN deal is designed in a way (regular resets that are all litigated for years) that makes it impossible to settle. The Lerners don't want to take a discount and no-one is paying full price, so they are holding an asset they no longer want. At this point, I'm just happy they signed Crewes   

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« Reply #4749 on: September 08, 2023, 11:20:30 am »
The team was for sale. Now it’s not and the lerners are going to run it as cheaply as possible
If this is true, are we now effectively a "small market" team, or a rung below that tier?