Author Topic: Nationals new 1B discussion (Read 76773 times)

Why not Loney? Last year was a dip but prior to that the splits show that he's a much better hitter away from LA. He's also a good defensive player. If it takes just a little to get him from LA then it's not a bad idea for a year or two even if it's a platoon.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #631 on:** December 17, 2010, 11:51:15 am »

I don't want to trade anything for Loney when we can just sign Lee for a year or try to pursuade LaRoche to a 2 year deal.

zoom · « **Reply #632 on:** December 17, 2010, 11:54:14 am »

what happened to Kotchman, btw? Was he overrated to begin with? I'd sign him to a minor league deal in a heartbeat (if possible).

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #633 on:** December 17, 2010, 11:56:43 am »

His bat is not big enough (insert Wang joke here).

Unless he dramatically improves, his defense is not good enough to overcome the lack of offense he would bring. It's just not. LaRoche would come closer.

I could see Rizzo sending a bullpen arm to LA for him, though.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #634 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:00:59 pm »

Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 17, 2010, 11:51:15 am

I don't want to trade anything for Loney when we can just sign Lee for a year or try to pursuade LaRoche to a 2 year deal.

If we can land one of those two then they're obviously to be preferred.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #635 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:01:05 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on December 17, 2010, 10:16:12 am

At 12:00 PM today I will admit I am wrong if nothing happens.

My uneducated guess was wrong.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #636 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:04:42 pm »

Nats just signed Chad Gaudin. You were right!

PANatsFan · « **Reply #637 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:05:51 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on December 17, 2010, 12:04:42 pm

Nats just signed Chad Gaudin. You were right!

Good he can be Batista 2011.

JMW IV · « **Reply #638 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:07:47 pm »

why not just give laroche 3 years?

isnt he 30?

What is the issue holding us back?

hammondsnats · « **Reply #639 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:08:48 pm »

Quote from: JMW IV on December 17, 2010, 12:07:47 pm

why not just give laroche 3 years?

isnt he 30?

What is the issue holding us back?

exactly.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #640 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:09:41 pm »

Quote from: JMW IV on December 17, 2010, 12:07:47 pm

why not just give laroche 3 years?

isnt he 30?

What is the issue holding us back?

The only offer that has been confirmed to be three years is the Orioles. There is no knowledge that any other team has an offer on the table although LaRoche has been linked to both the Nationals and Padres. The Nationals might have plans beyond our knowledge or faith in minor leaguers.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #641 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:10:17 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on December 17, 2010, 11:56:43 am

His bat is not big enough (insert Wang joke here).

Unless he dramatically improves, his defense is not good enough to overcome the lack of offense he would bring. It's just not. LaRoche would come closer.

I could see Rizzo sending a bullpen arm to LA for him, though.

Take a look at Loney's splits even last year. .785 OPS and .340 wOBA against RHP. He didn't hit LHP at all. Go back through his first 3-4 years and you usually get those kinds of splits (LHP/RHP) but you get a bump away from LA. That's not nearly as bad a bat as the home park made it look.

Home/Away OPS and wOBA for Loney (06 is way too small a sample size):

07 -- .866/.939 OPS and .374/.397 wOBA
08 -- .735/.815 OPS and .320/.350 wOBA
09 -- .640/.859 OPS and .282/.375 wOBA
10 -- .717/.729 OPS and .311/.320 wOBA

I'm going to guess 2010 was the aberration and that Loney is a much better hitter away from LA and against RHP. He's a good platoon guy/defensive replacement to have around. There should be no problem running him out there for 400 PAs during a season.

That said, I'd obviously prefer LaRoche/Lee at 1B.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #642 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:12:04 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on December 17, 2010, 12:04:42 pm

Nats just signed Chad Gaudin. You were right!

i think i'll wet my pants.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #643 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:12:43 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on December 17, 2010, 12:05:51 pm

Good he can be Batista 2011.

I think that's going to be Stammen's role...

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #644 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:19:41 pm »

A Loney/Morse 1B platoon wouldn't be too bad, I suppose. But they could just sign Branyan or Hawpe and could have had Overbay if they wanted a platoon. No need to trade anyone.

Also, using Morse at 1B leaves us with no plan B if Bernadina flops. I'm not at all comfortable with that.

The Chief · « **Reply #645 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:36:25 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on December 17, 2010, 12:01:05 pm

My uneducated guess was wrong.

Welcome to WNFF

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #646 on:** December 17, 2010, 12:40:19 pm »

Yeah sign LaRoche to three years

Kevrock · « **Reply #647 on:** December 17, 2010, 01:01:48 pm »

Should I not be alarmed by Laroche's 172 strike outs last season?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #648 on:** December 17, 2010, 01:04:30 pm »

Strike outs only count if they come from Adam Dunn.

blue911 · « **Reply #649 on:** December 17, 2010, 01:07:35 pm »

Quote from: Kevrock on December 17, 2010, 01:01:48 pm

Should I not be alarmed by Laroche's 172 strike outs last season?

Why would Atlanta take Troy Glaus over LaRoche?