10/11 offseason

[JCA-CrystalCity]

As far as trading Desmond goes I was wondering if there is a deal out there like the Delmon Young for Garza/Bartlett from a couple years back.

With our luck, Desmond would be the Bartlett, JZ would be the Garza, and we'd get the Delmon (and Brendan Harris!)  back.

[hammondsnats]

Congrats to sportsfan/spidernat/hammonds on their collaborative account.

i guess you like 100 loss seasons.

i find it funny you can insult a person when you have them on ignore.

[blue911]

i guess you like 100 loss seasons.

i find it funny you can insult a person when you have them on ignore.

Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries!

Now that's an insult!

[imref]

Boz goes to ballistic:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120106224.html

[NatsDad14]

Angelos is a better owner than Lerner right now.

Snyder is also better. Look at his track record of playoffs. The Lerners haven't sniffed the playoffs.

[spidernat]

Congrats to sportsfan/spidernat/hammonds on their collaborative account.

I don't understand why this Lerner nut slurper has me on ignore yet the nag ass ho continues to bring me up in his posts.  

i find it funny you can insult a person when you have them on ignore.

hammonds beat me to it.

[Potomac Cannons]

As far as trading Desmond goes I was wondering if there is a deal out there like the Delmon Young for Garza/Bartlett from a couple years back.

Did anyone think there was a deal like Ramos for Capps?  If Desmond is drawing enough interest to be part of a deal for a SP then you do it without thinking twice.  I'd take upgrade at SP, Espinosa at SS, 1 year fill-in at 2B and Lombardozzi getting a shot at 2B in 2012 (and as our future leadoff guy).

[Potomac Cannons]

Boz goes to ballistic:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120106224.html

Poor, silly, out of the loop little boy.  That's all Boz is at this point.  That's nothing more than a pissing contest by someone who doesn't get to be in the know anymore and thinks it's his right due to being a "journalist."

[Lintyfresh85]

Nathan, you really need to get that post generator up and running.

At this point, it'll pretty much be a lock to be accurate.

[MarquisDeSade]

Nathan, you really need to get that post generator up and running.

At this point, it'll pretty much be a lock to be accurate.

I actually wrote one of those years ago for a similarly cantankerous board member.  Let me know if you really want to do one, the algorithm was pretty cool.

[hammondsnats]

What a great story by Boz as always.

Lerners are cheap and horrible owners.

This team is doomed under the Lerner family.  Doomed. 

[Potomac Cannons]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101201&content_id=16238638&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Decent article on MLB.com.  Looking at it, and looking at some of the players' actual numbers, I'm thinking Johnny Damon as our LF/leadoff batter would be a really solid decision.  Adding someone like that to the clubhouse can't hurt either.

I'd pay money to hear him and Livan swap stories about helping Noah load the ark.

[HalfSmokes]

Does an NL team really want an LF hitting lead off?

[Lintyfresh85]

I wouldn't mind Gardner... but he'd fit better at CF.

[hammondsnats]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101201&content_id=16238638&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Decent article on MLB.com.  Looking at it, and looking at some of the players' actual numbers, I'm thinking Johnny Damon as our LF/leadoff batter would be a really solid decision.  Adding someone like that to the clubhouse can't hurt either.

I'd pay money to hear him and Livan swap stories about helping Noah load the ark.

yeah let's continue to go looking through the bargain bin.  why not that's all we ever f'n do.

[NatsDad14]

Potomac Cannon's brilliant plan is to play Bernadina every day. Too bad he ran away when confronted by facts that his boy is clearly below average. No matter how many insults and superlatives you add in, it doesn't change the fact that Bernadina is clearly below average.

[Potomac Cannons]

Does an NL team really want an LF hitting lead off?

Want?  Not really.  But if the idea of Morse going to 1B happens, and we have decent pop from the MI spots, then it's not the worst option available.  It's not the ideal, for sure, but it's not a bad move either. 

[cmdterps44]

Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries!

Now that's an insult!

Woah woah woah. Chill with that stuff! That's my mother and father too!

[JCA-CrystalCity]

yeah let's continue to go looking through the bargain bin.  why not that's all we ever f'n do.

Beats the heck out of not having a leadoff hitter.  Short of Ricky Henderson or Brady Onjuice, Damon would be in the running for one of the best leadoff hitters in the free agency era.  We've discussed before how Nats Park is friendly to hitters with lefty pull power.  In this respect, I'd expect his HRs to be closer to what he hit at Yankee (new and old) than to Comerica.  Sign him, remove either Morgan or Bernadina from your every day OF, and you are 15 - 20 HRs closer to replacing Dunn's total.  Trade Desmond for pitching to upgrade the rotation.  Bring in a Hall or a Jose Lopez to play 2d, and you are break even on power, with any increase from Morse full time making you better off than last year. 

If the Nats were to sign and go into next year with the same "3-4-5 and forget it" offense, then they might be worse off than a long, more balanced offense.

[blue911]

Woah woah woah. Chill with that stuff! That's my mother and father too!

I didn't want to call him a loofah sponge or whatever.

[hammondsnats]

Beats the heck out of not having a leadoff hitter.  Short of Ricky Henderson or Brady Onjuice, Damon would be in the running for one of the best leadoff hitters in the free agency era.  We've discussed before how Nats Park is friendly to hitters with lefty pull power.  In this respect, I'd expect his HRs to be closer to what he hit at Yankee (new and old) than to Comerica.  Sign him, remove either Morgan or Bernadina from your every day OF, and you are 15 - 20 HRs closer to replacing Dunn's total.  Trade Desmond for pitching to upgrade the rotation.  Bring in a Hall or a Jose Lopez to play 2d, and you are break even on power, with any increase from Morse full time making you better off than last year. 

If the Nats were to sign and go into next year with the same "3-4-5 and forget it" offense, then they might be worse off than a long, more balanced offense.

there's bigger priorities than damon.

[UMDNats]

there's bigger priorities than damon.

Does that mean Damon is a bad option?

Dunn isn't coming back here. Damon as a leadoff guy with some improvements like JCA pointed out would be nice to actually attempt to improve the team instead of just punting like I expect them to do.

[Evolution33]

Does that mean Damon is a bad option?

Dunn isn't coming back here. Damon as a leadoff guy with some improvements like JCA pointed out would be nice to actually attempt to improve the team instead of just punting like I expect them to do.

I think what some people want is a giant leap forward which isn't very likely. Another 10 game improvement isn't even all that likely. The team needs to aim for a 3-5 game improvement after last year while answering the questions about the young players in the line-up and rotation.

[HalfSmokes]

Want?  Not really.  But if the idea of Morse going to 1B happens, and we have decent pop from the MI spots, then it's not the worst option available.  It's not the ideal, for sure, but it's not a bad move either. 

I would think if we sign Damon, it's Willingham at first, morse off the bench

[Potomac Cannons]

Does that mean Damon is a bad option?

Dunn isn't coming back here. Damon as a leadoff guy with some improvements like JCA pointed out would be nice to actually attempt to improve the team instead of just punting like I expect them to do.

But that requires thinking all the way through a situation instead of just screaming the same crap at the top of your lungs like some here do.

The ideal offseason looks something like:

Re-sign Dunn.
Flip Desmond + prospects for a #2 SP or Greinke.
Sign a 1 year 2B fill in while monitoring Lombardozzi's progress.
Add Werth/Crawford.

A good offseason could look like:

Sign Adam LaRoche.
Flip Desmond + prospects for James Shields.
Take a flyer on Brad Penny/Brandon Webb/Aaron Harang.
Sign Hudson or Flop for 1 year.
Add Johnny Damon as LF/leadoff for 1-2 years.

For too many here the only "good" option is the perfect offseason where every single top option suddenly decides to play in DC.