Author Topic: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread (Read 49887 times)

imref · « **Reply #850:** November 04, 2019, 09:45:33 AM »

we might want to wait to see where he signs before we make any pronouncements. So far all that's being reported is that he plans to meet with the Nationals.

Slateman · « **Reply #851:** November 04, 2019, 09:49:03 AM »

Quote from: imref on November 04, 2019, 09:45:33 AM

we might want to wait to see where he signs before we make any pronouncements. So far all that's being reported is that he plans to meet with the Nationals.

I'm pretty certain he's going to re-sign here. But to me, true loyalty would be keeping the deal you had with the team that took care of you. Especially if you believe that the shutdown had a lot to do with his long term health (versus, say, a Matt Harvey).

imref · « **Reply #852:** November 04, 2019, 10:11:53 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on November 04, 2019, 09:49:03 AM

I'm pretty certain he's going to re-sign here. But to me, true loyalty would be keeping the deal you had with the team that took care of you. Especially if you believe that the shutdown had a lot to do with his long term health (versus, say, a Matt Harvey).

Sounds more like true stupidity than true loyalty. You could also argue that if the Nats were truly loyal to Strasburg they would have re-done his deal before the end of the season to bring him up to market value.

The Chief · « **Reply #853:** November 04, 2019, 10:12:37 AM »

Player's union would never let him do that, Slate is trolling as usual.

bluestreak · « **Reply #854:** November 04, 2019, 10:13:02 AM »

He did keep the deal. He and the Nationals negotiated a player opt out.

imref · « **Reply #855:** November 04, 2019, 10:21:44 AM »

Quote from: bluestreak on November 04, 2019, 10:13:02 AM

He did keep the deal. He and the Nationals negotiated a player opt out.

yep

Quote from: The Chief on November 04, 2019, 10:12:37 AM

Player's union would never let him do that, Slate is trolling as usual.

yep

Sorry for falling for it.

Slateman · « **Reply #856:** November 04, 2019, 10:37:24 AM »

Quote from: The Chief on November 04, 2019, 10:12:37 AM

Player's union would never let him do that, Slate is trolling as usual.

Again, not everything you disagree with is trolling.

Seems silly to call it "loyalty" when you demand a re-negotiation. It's business. Fine, but don't confuse it with loyalty.

The Chief · « **Reply #857:** November 04, 2019, 10:49:04 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on November 04, 2019, 10:37:24 AM

Again, not everything you disagree with is trolling.

Never said I disagreed, and you are an established troll, so you + making outlandish suggestions = trolling until proven otherwise

Meeting with the Nats first thing to continue negotiations seems like about as "loyal" as one can expect in a market where players are pushed by their agents and the players union to drive up market values whenever possible. I believe Stras wants to stay here and I think both sides will get it done, but suggesting he continue on with a contract that was clearly structured for exactly this kind of scenario while disregarding the impact it would have on the rest of the market comes off as disingenuous.

Quote from: Slateman on November 04, 2019, 10:37:24 AM

Seems silly to call it "loyalty" when you demand a re-negotiation. It's business. Fine, but don't confuse it with loyalty.

Sounds like you're just playing semantics games and have no real argument except over usage of the word "loyal".

If not plain trolling then you're certainly being very pedantic.

spidernat · « **Reply #858:** November 04, 2019, 11:45:32 AM »

We all know very well that if a couple of posters had come out and called Strasburg disloyal for exercising his right to opt out that Slate would've strongly defended Strasburg just to have the contrarian stance.

The Chief · « **Reply #859:** November 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM »

Slate should pay the whole bill for WNFF in 2020 if he's really loyal

Slateman · « **Reply #860:** November 04, 2019, 11:59:55 AM »

Quote from: The Chief on November 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM

Slate should pay the whole bill for WNFF in 2020 if he's really loyal

I'll just be loyal to the contract, like Stras is . . .

The Chief · « **Reply #861:** November 04, 2019, 12:05:37 PM »

Should've offered to pay in deferred money

imref · « **Reply #862:** November 04, 2019, 12:21:45 PM »

Quote from: The Chief on November 04, 2019, 12:05:37 PM

Should've offered to pay in deferred money

be careful, folks might propose doing that on the next fundraising thread.

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #863:** November 04, 2019, 12:45:15 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on November 03, 2019, 01:46:18 PM

Where is PB69?

Hiding. It's hard to be negative when the team just won the World Series.

Duke of Earl · « **Reply #864:** November 04, 2019, 12:50:21 PM »

With so many people convinced that Strasburg will end up here, there are also several people who say we cannot afford both Strasburg and Rendon. I really have no idea if that's true, but if it is: does that mean if we sign Strasburg we just let Rendon walk? More to the point, if we can sign Rendon, do we let Strasburg walk? The latter sort of blows away the theory that he is certain to end up here.