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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #325: August 31, 2015, 05:39:47 PM »
I give Strasburg a little credit for removing himself from games when he's not "on" and preventing himself from causing further damage to the team, but it's a little excessive at this point. 

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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #326: August 31, 2015, 06:39:20 PM »
James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP  8m8 minutes ago

Stephen Strasburg won't play catch today. He's taking medication to help with back/shoulder. Tests came back clean, per MW.

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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #327: August 31, 2015, 06:53:35 PM »
James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP  8m8 minutes ago

Stephen Strasburg won't play catch today. He's taking medication to help with back/shoulder. Tests came back clean, per MW.

My dad used to do that.   He was in his 70s at the time.

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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #329: September 01, 2015, 06:44:34 PM »
James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP  12m12 minutes ago

Strasburg (upper back) played without any issue, per MW. Whether he starts will hinge on his bullpen session though.

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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #330: September 01, 2015, 06:46:36 PM »
James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP  12m12 minutes ago

Strasburg (upper back) played without any issue, per MW. Whether he starts will hinge on his bullpen session though.

I like that news.

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Re: The Stephen Strasburg Appreciation Thread
« Reply #331: September 01, 2015, 07:23:25 PM »
James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP  12m12 minutes ago

Strasburg (upper back) played without any issue, per MW. Whether he starts will hinge on his bullpen session though.

Played what though?  Cribbage?

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Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #332: September 11, 2015, 02:38:26 PM »
WAR isn't much better than ERA, and in any case a 3 WAR isn't anything to brag about, we didn't lose 100 games for a third or fourth starter.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=500&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

Since 2012 (aka Strasburg returning from TJ for a full season), Strasburg is 17th in  baseball among SP in WAR and ERA, 11th in FIP, 4th in K/9, 10th in K/BB.

He totally sucks! Basically a #4 starter. It's amazing to me how Strasburg gets crap on relentlessly but Tanner Roark is worshiped as an ace.

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #333: September 11, 2015, 02:44:27 PM »
a 3 WAR isn't anything to brag about

I don't believe much in WAR, but If WAR really correlates to wins, and specifically wins above replacement, and if replacement is  50 wins, then if you had a roster of 25 men each with 3 WAR, you'd win 120 games.

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #334: September 11, 2015, 02:48:16 PM »
I don't believe much in WAR, but If WAR really correlates to wins, and specifically wins above replacement, and if replacement is  50 wins, then if you had a roster of 25 men each with 3 WAR, you'd win 120 games.

That would probably be true.

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #335: September 11, 2015, 02:51:41 PM »
I don't believe much in WAR, but If WAR really correlates to wins, and specifically wins above replacement, and if replacement is  50 wins, then if you had a roster of 25 men each with 3 WAR, you'd win 120 games.

last year a pitcher worth 3 WAR would be tied for 42nd best pitcher (there were another 70 fielders with 3 or mor WAR) in the majors- it's good, but not special

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #336: September 11, 2015, 03:05:58 PM »
last year a pitcher worth 3 WAR would be tied for 42nd best pitcher (there were another 70 fielders with 3 or mor WAR) in the majors- it's good, but not special

Yes but if your entire rotation 1-5 were 3 and all 7 of your relievers, you'd really have a staff!


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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #338: September 11, 2015, 08:04:57 PM »
Has he yet to face a pitcher younger than him?
Doesn't mean a whole lot to me, as pitchers have shown to take quite a bit longer to develop unless they're relievers.

Again, this has always been the expectation for Bryce.

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #339: September 12, 2015, 08:30:07 PM »
Doesn't mean a whole lot to me, as pitchers have shown to take quite a bit longer to develop unless they're relievers.

Again, this has always been the expectation for Bryce.

Bryce is Bryce - expectations are the province of others.

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #340: September 15, 2015, 09:05:54 PM »
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=500&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

Since 2012 (aka Strasburg returning from TJ for a full season), Strasburg is 17th in  baseball among SP in WAR and ERA, 11th in FIP, 4th in K/9, 10th in K/BB.

He totally sucks! Basically a #4 starter. It's amazing to me how Strasburg gets crap on relentlessly but Tanner Roark is worshiped as an ace.

LOL. No doubt. Most guys love or hate a specific player on a game to game basis depending on how they performed that day.

As for our real #1 pitcher and only ace on the staff:

7 IP, 1 hit, 1 walk, 13 strikeouts.

Trade the bum now for a bullpen arm!!!

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #341: September 15, 2015, 09:25:34 PM »
healthy Strasburg is one of the 3-4 best pitchers in baseball.  We just need to see more healthy Strasburg. 

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #342: September 15, 2015, 09:28:21 PM »
LOL. No doubt. Most guys love or hate a specific player on a game to game basis depending on how they performed that day.

As for our real #1 pitcher and only ace on the staff:

7 IP, 1 hit, 1 walk, 13 strikeouts.

Trade the bum now for a bullpen arm!!!

Sort of casting a wide net there aren't you mon ami?

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #343: September 15, 2015, 09:31:19 PM »
Sort of casting a wide net there aren't you mon ami?

There's an old phrase we used to use in Western PA for comments like his  ....

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #344: September 15, 2015, 09:31:52 PM »
Looks great tonight but needs to do it over a longer period of time. Let's see how he starts next year.


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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #345: September 15, 2015, 09:32:39 PM »
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It's not F----in A is it?

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #347: September 15, 2015, 09:37:05 PM »
healthy Strasburg is one of the 3-4 best pitchers in baseball.  We just need to see more healthy Strasburg.

So...he's worth $30MM / year?

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #348: September 15, 2015, 09:38:33 PM »
So...he's worth $30MM / year?

Essentially, Max is. 

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Re: Re: The "Stephen Strasburg is not an Ace" Thread
« Reply #349: September 15, 2015, 09:39:42 PM »
Essentially, Max is.

Rizzo is gonna need to come up with some more creative financing.