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Offline CatsEye

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2200 on: February 18, 2010, 03:04:10 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 01:36:39 pm
villone should be plan R. not plan B.
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2201 on: February 18, 2010, 03:05:14 pm »
Quote from: DPMOmaha on February 18, 2010, 02:59:15 pm
There are several more talented pieces that weren't here last year though...
Why is Bub Monsoon predicting him to make the 25-man, then?
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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2202 on: February 18, 2010, 03:10:02 pm »
because he's bored?
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2203 on: February 18, 2010, 03:20:12 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 01:36:39 pm
villone should be plan R. not plan B.

I hope that plan R is heavy on James Earl Jones and light on anybody riding anything with a cowboy hat on.
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Offline JMW IV

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2204 on: February 18, 2010, 03:26:46 pm »
Quote from: blue911 on February 18, 2010, 01:40:23 pm
I don't care if he's Plan 9, how is it a bad thing?

he's terrible. that's how.
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Offline JMW IV

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2205 on: February 18, 2010, 03:29:37 pm »
sign a plan b that isn't completely terrible.

i.e. not Villone.
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Offline blue911

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2206 on: February 18, 2010, 03:39:30 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 03:26:46 pm
he's terrible. that's how.

No, that's why he has value. Anybody that has his lack of stuff and can still pitch in the majors is worth signing to a MiLB contract.
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Offline JMW IV

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2207 on: February 18, 2010, 03:42:58 pm »
Quote from: blue911 on February 18, 2010, 03:39:30 pm
No, that's why he has value. Anybody that has his lack of stuff and can still pitch in the majors is worth signing to a MiLB contract.

he has value because he sucks?
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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2208 on: February 18, 2010, 03:49:31 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 03:42:58 pm
he has value because he sucks?
If that's the case, I could fill a spot in a big league bullpen. 

I had a good slider back in the day...
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2209 on: February 18, 2010, 03:54:46 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 03:42:58 pm
he has value because he sucks?

Correct. He knows how to compete. There is a fine line between MLB and AAA, usually it's mental.
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Offline JMW IV

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2210 on: February 18, 2010, 04:00:37 pm »
Quote from: blue911 on February 18, 2010, 03:54:46 pm
Correct. He knows how to compete. There is a fine line between MLB and AAA, usually it's mental.

he knows how to fail to compete. yeah, there is a fine line between MLB and AAA. but Villone is not on the MLB side. or rather he shouldn't be.

that's some backwards logic that only you'd understand blue.

can't fathom how a terrible player has value. I'd much rather have players that aren't terrible and are actually good players.

guess I'll agree to disagree here.
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Offline blue911

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2211 on: February 18, 2010, 04:05:07 pm »
Quote from: JMadIV on February 18, 2010, 04:00:37 pm
he knows how to fail to compete. yeah, there is a fine line between MLB and AAA. but Villone is not on the MLB side. or rather he shouldn't be.

that's some backwards logic that only you'd understand blue.

can't fathom how a terrible player has value. I'd much rather have players that aren't terrible and are actually good players.

guess I'll agree to disagree here.

That's cool. I'm not saying that Villone makes the off season, just I don't see it as a negative.
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2212 on: February 18, 2010, 06:59:04 pm »
Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on February 18, 2010, 03:05:14 pm
Why is Bub Monsoon predicting him to make the 25-man, then?

I think you just answered your own question.
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Offline Hondo

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2213 on: February 19, 2010, 04:59:34 pm »
Anyone up for signing another starting pitcher?  With Detwiler done for 3 months, seems to me we need another option in Spring Training....

Benson? Livan? Jennings? Looper? Washburn?
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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2214 on: February 19, 2010, 05:11:15 pm »
If someone else goes down, perhaps, but right now, I think we're ok and come May, we'll be close to log jam territory.
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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2215 on: February 19, 2010, 06:35:53 pm »
Didn't the team recently sign Chuck James?

Maybe he can make a massive comeback.
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2216 on: February 19, 2010, 08:49:55 pm »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on February 19, 2010, 06:35:53 pm
Didn't the team recently sign Chuck James?

Maybe he can make a massive comeback.

Yeah, but don't think he's ready yet either.

Ready now, we got

Balester
Martin
Martis
Stammen
Chico
Olsen
Batista
Mock
Strasburg

And ready sometime later in 2010 we got:

Wang
Detwiler
Zimmermann
James

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Offline I can Throw

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2217 on: February 19, 2010, 09:31:41 pm »
Hoping we can hold Stras back a bit, but heck give everybody a start till we find the right guy. One of them is going to break out, maybe two.
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Offline zoom

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2218 on: February 20, 2010, 09:16:13 am »
Quote from: tomterp on February 19, 2010, 08:49:55 pm
Yeah, but don't think he's ready yet either.

Ready now, we got

Balester
Martin
Martis
Stammen
Chico
Olsen
Batista
Mock
Strasburg

And ready sometime later in 2010 we got:

Wang
Detwiler
Zimmermann
James



When is Zimmermann expected to be back?  I was assuming he wouldn't pitch at all in '10. 
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2219 on: February 20, 2010, 04:01:19 pm »
Quote from: zoom on February 20, 2010, 09:16:13 am
When is Zimmermann expected to be back?  I was assuming he wouldn't pitch at all in '10. 

I think I saw August back on the mound, which might allow for either a few September starts or perhaps an AFL stint (I think guys with minimal MLB service coming of f an injury can go to the AFL).
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2220 on: February 20, 2010, 04:04:26 pm »
Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 20, 2010, 04:01:19 pm
I think I saw August back on the mound, which might allow for either a few September starts or perhaps an AFL stint (I think guys with minimal MLB service coming of f an injury can go to the AFL).
They could always try him in Winter ball, right?
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2221 on: February 20, 2010, 05:01:31 pm »
Man what happened to Detwiler? It flew right past my head, I was expecting alot for this kid this year and hes already out for 3 months :?
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2222 on: February 20, 2010, 05:14:16 pm »
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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2223 on: February 20, 2010, 05:16:02 pm »
Quote from: Nathan on February 20, 2010, 05:14:16 pm
Hip injury.
http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,16771.0.html

Right, torn labrum ( see - Alex Rodriguez).

If A-Rod's the model, it shouldn't have any long term consequences.
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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing
« Reply #2224 on: February 20, 2010, 09:39:04 pm »
Quote from: tomterp on February 20, 2010, 05:16:02 pm
Right, torn labrum ( see - Alex Rodriguez).

If A-Rod's the model, it shouldn't have any long term consequences.
Alex Gordon had it too.  It's taken him a bit longer to return to form.
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