Tim Lincecum Is An Enemy Of The US

[Nat of the Living Dead]

Rotoworld.com:

Tim Lincecum is facing misdemeanor marijuana charges following a traffic stop in Washington.
The Washington native was found with 3.3 grams of marijuana and a pipe after being pulled over for speeding. He was fined a total of $622 for driving at 74 mph in a 60-mph zone and for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia. If he were a 25th man, this is the kind of thing that could get Lincecum released. As is, it's doubtful he'll face any sort of punishment from the Giants.

[sportsfan882]

dagger. I thought MLB did extensive drug tests?

[tomterp]

It's either cheap crap or he hadn't had a chance to smoke any yet, else he wouldn't have been approaching 74. 

Get high, drive slower, save lives.

[HalfSmokes]

So does he get suspended under the MLB drug policy now?

[Nat of the Living Dead]

So does he get suspended under the MLB drug policy now?

I'd be curious to hear/read their actual policy.

[DPMOmaha]

I'd be curious to hear/read their actual policy.

Not the official policy but it's a pretty good rundown on wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy

[The Chief]

74 in a 60?  Give me a freaking break.

[tomterp]

74 in a 60?  Give me a freaking break.

Well that's why he got pulled over, then they found the weed.  Either he was a dumbass for leaving it in plain view, or he was a dumbass for giving them permission to search his vehicle, which he doesn't have to do.  Without probable cause, they can't go in without his permission.

I would never give permission myself, not that I'm hiding anything, but they can tear the thing apart and you're stuck putting everything back together, a massive waste of time for everyone.

[The Chief]

True, though we don't know the circumstances.  I was merely commenting on what a bogus speeding pullover that is.  I'd be willing to bet there was some profiling involved.

[sportsfan882]

the officer smelled the stench of marijuana. Lincecum quickly surrendered the pot and his pipe.

[tomterp]

the officer smelled the stench of marijuana. Lincecum quickly surrendered the pot and his pipe.

A stench?  Must have been some cheap mexican.  You'd think a guy like that could afford a more aromatic variety.

[houston-nat]

dagger. I thought MLB did extensive drug tests?

Is there some word that gets censored by the board as "dagger"? I totally don't understand why people keep saying "dagger" all the time.

[tomterp]

Is there some word that gets censored by the board as "dagger"? I totally don't understand why people keep saying "dagger" all the time.

No, it's just a SF fav.

[HalfSmokes]

dagger. I thought MLB did extensive drug tests?

I don't know if this is the current policy (its the first google hit and I'm too lazy to do more searching) news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/sports/mlbdrugpolicy05.pdf

but this one explicitly doesn't test for 'abuse' drugs, only steroids.

[sportsfan882]

re: dagger

Steve Buckhantz. It's a DC thing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/06/AR2009070603368.html

vid:

[NatsAddict]

Here is the Joint Drug Agreement:

[ronnynat]

dagger

Yeah, you misuse that word a lot.

[HalfSmokes]

Here is the Joint Drug Agreement:

page 9- no real testing for pot, but

D.  Conviction for the Possession or Use of Prohibited Substance
 
A Player who is convicted or pleads guilty (including a plea of nolo contendere or similar
plea but not including an adjournment contemplating dismissal or a similar disposition) to the
possession or use of any Prohibited Substance (including a criminal charge of conspiracy or
attempt to possess or use) shall be subject to the following discipline:
 
1.  For a first offense: at least a 60-game but not more than an 80-game
suspension, if the Prohibited Substance is a Performance Enhancing Substance, or
at least a 15-game but not more than a 30-game suspension, if the Prohibited
Substance is a Drug of Abuse (including a Stimulant);

3 starts if there's a conviction, way to be tough mlb.

[Kevrock]

It's part of the Junkies vocab, they say it constantly, so does SF.

[sportsfan882]

Yeah, you misuse that word a lot.

notttttttttttttt

The word "Dagger" is also used as a slang term to indicate something terrible has suddenly occured. This originated from Washington Wizards play-by-play man Steve Buckhantz and gained popularity on websites like Terptown and also on The Junkies Radio Show. Example: "My boss just told me I have to come in on Saturday." "Dagger."

Jim's friend: "I can't believe you let me sleep with that chick when you knew she had the herp." Jim: "Dagger."

[NatsAddict]

As a 1st time drug of abuse, he'll go on the clinical track rather (no discipline) than an administrative track.  Further, marijuana has its own special clause under drugs of abuse for users (so long as just users and not dealing) that prohibits suspension.  Even if he continues to fail tests for marijuana use, he cannot be suspended.

SECTION 8
...
        F.     Marijuana
        A Player on the Administrative Track for the use or possession of marijuana shall not be
subject to suspension. The Player will be subject to fines, which shall be progressive and which
shall not exceed $25,000 for any particular violation. Notwithstanding the foregoing, a Player
who participates in the sale or distribution (as those terms are used in the criminal code) of
marijuana will be subject to the discipline set forth in Section 8.E above.

JDA

Also, the JDA prohibits MLB or any team from disclosing any information about players caught with drugs of abuse.  Depending on who put out this information, Lincecum may have a grievance with MLB and/or the Giants.

[ronnynat]

notttttttttttttt

Haha. Your Junkies are idiots then. But I already knew that. It doesn't mean "something terrible has suddenly occurred." Why would Buckhantz scream "DAGGERRR!!" when one of our guys makes a shot to finish off a team if it meant something terrible has happened?

[sportsfan882]

they are not idiots. great guys.

There are a million different usages of dagger. I hear it all the time and not just from myself.

IN BRIEF: Something that kills the chances of a good outcome. This is mainly said when competition is involved.

IN BASKETBALL:
-A completed buzzer-beater at the end of the game to take the lead,
-a field goal or free throw made for a team with just enough time for the opposite team to not produce the win or
-if the lead is completely out of reach, "2:00 left" is automatically the dagger.

1. Something that happens that is grossly unplanned.

2.An action that kills anothers chances of a good outcome.
1. Jeff: My girlfriend cought me making out with her sister.

Chris: Dagger

2. Texas just scored another touchdown, that is a dagger for USC.

[ronnynat]

they are not idiots. great guys.

Makes sense that you like them.

[Nathan]

We need one of these added to the smiley list for SF