Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)

[Potomac Cannons]

Hell to the NO to Boozer he's a post season zero, and Amare is NOT worth a Max contract.

LOL.  Boozer put up 19.7p, 13.2r, and 3a per game in the playoffs this year with the 9th best efficiency rating.  Last year it was 20.6, 13.2, 2.2 and 1.6s and 5th in efficiency rating.  To call him a post season zero is to be wrong on every conceivable level.

With Boozer and Amare you've got the 8th and 12th rated players for player efficiency.  They are both big time post players.

I agree with waiting on Melo, who was 14th in efficiency, but Durant (2nd) is a pipe dream.

[wpa2629]

I don't want Boozer, not for the money he wants, and Amare wants a max contract which would be criminal.

Wait for Melo
Dream of Durant

[cmdterps44]

I don't want Boozer, not for the money he wants

If he can get it done, its worth it.

[Potomac Cannons]

I don't want Boozer, not for the money he wants, and Amare wants a max contract which would be criminal.

Wait for Melo
Dream of Durant

Why is Amare for a max contract criminal?  He just put up a year as the 12th most efficient player in the league.  Amare just put up 23 and 9 with an assist and block per game.  I don't want him because I don't think his game would mesh well with Blatche at all but Boozer's would.

The real steal would be David Lee.  He's been 12th and 3rd in player efficiency the last two years, does all the little stuff, passes very well for a post player, and can get his numbers without needing the ball a ton which would be perfect with Wall/Arenas/Hinrich.

[NatsDad14]

Why is Amare for a max contract criminal?  He just put up a year as the 12th most efficient player in the league.  Amare just put up 23 and 9 with an assist and block per game.  I don't want him because I don't think his game would mesh well with Blatche at all but Boozer's would.

The real steal would be David Lee.  He's been 12th and 3rd in player efficiency the last two years, does all the little stuff, passes very well for a post player, and can get his numbers without needing the ball a ton which would be perfect with Wall/Arenas/Hinrich.

No Defense

[wpa2629]

Why is Amare for a max contract criminal?  He just put up a year as the 12th most efficient player in the league.  Amare just put up 23 and 9 with an assist and block per game.  I don't want him because I don't think his game would mesh well with Blatche at all but Boozer's would.

The real steal would be David Lee.  He's been 12th and 3rd in player efficiency the last two years, does all the little stuff, passes very well for a post player, and can get his numbers without needing the ball a ton which would be perfect with Wall/Arenas/Hinrich.

Because Antawn Jamison averages 20/10 a game, not everything is about stats and efficiency. Because Max contracts for anyone other than a handful of players cripples a franchise. Because the Wiz already have Gils albatross hanging around their necks for another 4 years. Max money should go to the max game changers, the max impact guys. The only UFA I would give max money too are Lebron, Wade, Melo, Durant, and maybe Bosh, that's it, that's the list.

[Potomac Cannons]

Because Antawn Jamison averages 20/10 a game, not everything is about stats and efficiency. Because Max contracts for anyone other than a handful of players cripples a franchise. Because the Wiz already have Gils albatross hanging around their necks for another 4 years. Max money should go to the max game changers, the max impact guys. The only UFA I would give max money too are Lebron, Wade, Melo, Durant, and maybe Bosh, that's it, that's the list.

Bosh took a jump into the top 5 in his contract year.  Do you trust that?  Player efficiency is changing how teams do things.  You win by getting the most guys who do the most positive things with the least chances necessary.  Put those types of players, with complementary games, together and you'll win.  Guys like Boozer and Lee fit with the roster currently in place and that roster isn't going to change too much until Gil's contract can be moved.

[wpa2629]

Bosh took a jump into the top 5 in his contract year.  Do you trust that?  Player efficiency is changing how teams do things.  You win by getting the most guys who do the most positive things with the least chances necessary.  Put those types of players, with complementary games, together and you'll win.  Guys like Boozer and Lee fit with the roster currently in place and that roster isn't going to change too much until Gil's contract can be moved.

 I'm speaking strictly dollars and sense here (pun intended). Amare wants a max contract, Boozer wants a gazillion dollars, those are not the players I would spend max dollars on. I'm not suggesting that guys like Boozer and Amare aren't important components of contending teams, I'm simply saying that they are not worth the exorbitant price tag.

[cmdterps44]

I'm speaking strictly dollars and sense here (pun intended). Amare wants a max contract, Boozer wants a gazillion dollars, those are not the players I would spend max dollars on. I'm not suggesting that guys like Boozer and Amare aren't important components of contending teams, I'm simply saying that they are not worth the exorbitant price tag.

I understand what your saying but who are you proposing we go after? This is a really good free agency and I would like us to pick up one of these players. If not were going to see the same show we saw last year. We have the cap space so why not spend on pieces that'll make this team better, let alone fill spots were in desperate need of.

[Potomac Cannons]

I understand what your saying but who are you proposing we go after? This is a really good free agency and I would like us to pick up one of these players. If not were going to see the same show we saw last year. We have the cap space so why not spend on pieces that'll make this team better, let alone fill spots were in desperate need of.

That's why I say Rudy Gay fits this team better than any other FA this year and why I want to see them assure themselves of enough cap room to chase after Melo next year.  SF is the biggest need on this team with PF/C second.

With Gil's contract we aren't going to get the top guy or two.  Focus on the secondary names who play just as well as the bigger names and build a team with a drafted star and 2 young stars with complementary games.

[wpa2629]

I understand what your saying but who are you proposing we go after? This is a really good free agency and I would like us to pick up one of these players. If not were going to see the same show we saw last year. We have the cap space so why not spend on pieces that'll make this team better, let alone fill spots were in desperate need of.

Hold out until next year for Melo or Durant (pray)

And I don't mind spending less money on a "lower level" UFA. I'm just very much against spending max money on a Boozer or Amare. If we're going to spend Max Money, it needs to be a Wade (not happening), Lebron (not happening), Melo (possible), Durant (dream land)

[NatsDad14]

Amare is not close to being worth Max. Who cares about his PER. You don't win in the NBA when Amare or Boozer are your main guy. The Raptors had Bosh in a career year surrounded by some decent role players (Hedo, Calderon) and they still couldn't make the playoffs in a weak Eastern Conference.

[HalfSmokes]

Yi Jianlian is now a Wizard. Nets get cap room and Quinton Ross, we get Yi and $3 million.

[cmdterps44]

Yi Jianlian is now a Wizard. Nets get cap room and Quinton Ross, we get Yi and $3 million.

I don't know how this makes me feel. Stat wise last year: 7 rebounds a game, 12 points a game, 1 block a game. Is he something that we could consider a starter? Not to good on league averages.

[mitlen]

If I'm the NBA, I'm suing the players (specifically James, Wade and Bosh) for collusion.

[PANatsFan]

Yi Jianlian is now a Wizard. Nets get cap room and Quinton Ross, we get Yi and $3 million.

I hated this guys attitude in the draft. So the Wizards are his 3rd team?

[PANatsFan]

Anyone else get a robocall from the radio announcer? Apparently if you answer the phone quickly or call back an 800 number, you could talk to him live. I bought single game tickets and they are this desperate?

[cmdterps44]

Please Wizards. Sign something(s) amazing.

[PatsNats28]

Please Wizards. Sign something(s) amazing.

Don't set yourself up for that. It's not happening.

[ronnynat]

Yi is a solid player. He just needs to work on his post game. He's one of the most athletic 7-footers I've ever seen. He doesn't turn 23 until late October. Good trade.

[HalfSmokes]

I like the idea of getting young talented players for cheap after the hype has died down. If Yi can be anything close to what people thought initially, it's a steal. If not, we didn't give up anythign.

Now get rid of Gilbert and the offseason is as much of a success as it can be (I've accepted we won't go after one of the big names- I don't like it, but I've accepted it)

[wpa2629]

OMG LOL at Rudy Gay getting a Max deal! What is this world coming to??

[cmdterps44]

This sucks. As team's get better through the free agency, we get worse. Who in the hell are we going to have down low that will make a difference? I understand Yi, McGee, and Blatche are still progressing but if we think this year will be any different from last, it won't.

[HalfSmokes]

I understand Yi, McGee, and Blatche are still progressing but if we think this year will be any different from last, it won't.

I think the team basically admits they are rebuilding. I think what gets forgotten is that the whole foundation of the Capitals rebuilding through the draft was a once in a generation player, not any inherent skill in the front office. The other 'once in a generation' hockey player drafted almost at the same time already has championship. Hopefully the draft/get young philospohy will work, but if it's predicated on drafting a LeBron or Kobe or Ovy, it might take a while