i couldn't give a freak less what he did in the past. i am talking about NOW, the present. how do his all star appearances and world series mvp help us win more games now and in the future?
there is no way the current version of livan is better than the current j.d. martin.
livan can eat innings, is a proven vet and he can share tips/advice to the younger guys. he's made 4 starts with us (3 of them quality). martin has made 3 quality starts in 10 starts.
stop sucking martin off b/c he's younger than hernandez (although @ 26 he doesn't fit your ideal age)
