Author Topic: The Bryce Harper Watch (Read 219642 times)

imref · « **Reply #2525 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:44:13 pm »

great article on Harper's development, with one scout arguing he should have gone back to AA:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7709792/bryce-harper-had-educational-experience-spring

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #2526 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:59:57 pm »

Haven't read article, but as I've said all along, he should have repeated AA. Lefties were eating him for lunch in AA. Not much has changed since.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #2527 on:** April 14, 2012, 04:17:29 pm »

He's off to a slow start in his first week, not exactly the offensive savior we're looking for.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #2528 on:** April 14, 2012, 05:29:11 pm »

Not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, but Harper has always been a slow starter. He'll probably start mashing soon enough.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #2529 on:** April 14, 2012, 05:31:46 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on April 14, 2012, 05:29:11 pm

Not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, but Harper has always been a slow starter. He'll probably start mashing soon enough.

Not specific to Harper's case, but trends like "always a slow starter" never last, the player either reverses the trend or a slow start leads to a slow season.

KingHarper · « **Reply #2530 on:** April 14, 2012, 09:16:57 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 14, 2012, 05:31:46 pm

Not specific to Harper's case, but trends like "always a slow starter" never last, the player either reverses the trend or a slow start leads to a slow season.

he just means that at every level, Harper starts slow and then starts tearing it up

d_mc_nabb · « **Reply #2531 on:** April 14, 2012, 09:19:12 pm »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 14, 2012, 05:31:46 pm

Not specific to Harper's case, but trends like "always a slow starter" never last, the player either reverses the trend or a slow start leads to a slow season.

...like Ryan Zimmerman?

This may be true on a wide scale, but there are cases (like Zimmerman) where players just like the warmer weather.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #2532 on:** April 14, 2012, 09:38:27 pm »

Quote from: d_mc_nabb on April 14, 2012, 09:19:12 pm

...like Ryan Zimmerman?

This may be true on a wide scale, but there are cases (like Zimmerman) where players just like the warmer weather.

Zimmm is a perfect example of what I was referring too, early in his career he was a slow starter but that did not hold true.

d_mc_nabb · « **Reply #2533 on:** April 15, 2012, 02:26:53 am »

Quote from: PowerBoater69 on April 14, 2012, 09:38:27 pm

Zimmm is a perfect example of what I was referring too, early in his career he was a slow starter but that did not hold true.

Then I misinterpreted what you were saying. My bad.

Pretty much what KingHarper said, then.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #2534 on:** April 15, 2012, 10:15:36 am »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on March 19, 2012, 05:59:57 pm

Haven't read article, but as I've said all along, he should have repeated AA. Lefties were eating him for lunch in AA. Not much has changed since.

I also thought he should go back to Harrisburg.Batting .256 is not quite tearing it up. Though the thinking could have been he was very successful in the AFL and that merited a promotion.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2535 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:23:15 pm »

Harper overmatched so far in AAA:

.220/.256/.341, 0 HRs 1 RBI.

I'm sure he'll catch on at some point but he is a long ways away from a call up.

houston-nat · « **Reply #2536 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:26:32 pm »

Harper always looks overmatched for the first month, then begins adjusting. He'll struggle for a few more weeks, then start performing well. But it might be good for his development to let him play through the summer at AAA, so he can achieve consistent quality over a period of several months instead of getting promoted the moment he goes on a tear.

imref · « **Reply #2537 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:29:17 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on April 15, 2012, 09:26:32 pm

Harper always looks overmatched for the first month, then begins adjusting. He'll struggle for a few more weeks, then start performing well. But it might be good for his development to let him play through the summer at AAA, so he can achieve consistent quality over a period of several months instead of getting promoted the moment he goes on a tear.

1-4 yesterday with a double.

1-5 today with his 3rd double, scored 2 runs.

No need to panic.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #2538 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:38:59 pm »

Quote from: imref on April 15, 2012, 09:29:17 pm

1-4 yesterday with a double.

1-5 today with his 3rd double, scored 2 runs.

No need to panic.

No one ever has.

imref · « **Reply #2539 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:41:23 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on April 15, 2012, 09:38:59 pm

No one ever has.

my point was i think he'll do fine at AAA, there's no need to push him back to AA.

houston-nat · « **Reply #2540 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm »

Quote from: imref on April 15, 2012, 09:41:23 pm

my point was i think he'll do fine at AAA, there's no need to push him back to AA.

Oh I totally agree; that was my point.
I just want the sf882s of the world to be prepared for his brutal first month in DC instead of demanding he get sent to the minors after every strikeout.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #2541 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:57:51 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on April 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm

Oh I totally agree; that was my point.
I just want the sf882s of the world to be prepared for his brutal first month in DC instead of demanding he get sent to the minors after every strikeout.

it won't be a month. i think it's more like 2-3 weeks before he heats up when exposed to a new level

nobleisthyname · « **Reply #2542 on:** April 15, 2012, 09:58:30 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on April 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm

Oh I totally agree; that was my point.
I just want the sf882s of the world to be prepared for his brutal first month in DC instead of demanding he get sent to the minors after every strikeout.

You ask too much.

imref · « **Reply #2543 on:** April 15, 2012, 10:02:14 pm »

Quote from: houston-nat on April 15, 2012, 09:47:08 pm

Oh I totally agree; that was my point.
I just want the sf882s of the world to be prepared for his brutal first month in DC instead of demanding he get sent to the minors after every strikeout.

yeah, as much as I had hoped we'd see in him a month or two it's probably more realistic that he's a September call-up and then competes for a starting spot next year.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #2544 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:38:02 pm »

2-4 yesterday and 1-4 today
he looks like he's starting to come around. He now has a 5 game hitting streak and is 6-22 with 3 extra base hits over that span

welch · « **Reply #2545 on:** April 18, 2012, 08:55:40 am »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on April 17, 2012, 10:38:02 pm

2-4 yesterday and 1-4 today
he looks like he's starting to come around. He now has a 5 game hitting streak and is 6-22 with 3 extra base hits over that span

If he keeps improving, then call him up at the end of July. August is a big month, and, crazy me, i'm starting to imagine the Nats in post-season baseball.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #2546 on:** April 18, 2012, 12:20:32 pm »

Quote from: welch on April 18, 2012, 08:55:40 am

If he keeps improving, then call him up at the end of July. August is a big month, and, crazy me, i'm starting to imagine the Nats in post-season baseball.

You wouldn't be the only crazy one then

JMUalumni · « **Reply #2547 on:** April 18, 2012, 01:27:37 pm »

Harper's splits at this very early stage in the season (i.e. SSS):

vs RHP: .300/.323/.467 (31 PA)
vs LHP: .158/.200/.211 (20 PA)

Also 3 fielding errors through 12 games.

Slateman · « **Reply #2548 on:** April 18, 2012, 02:08:16 pm »

Not surprising that he's struggling against lefties

UMDNats · « **Reply #2549 on:** April 18, 2012, 02:30:17 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 18, 2012, 01:27:37 pm

Harper's splits at this very early stage in the season (i.e. SSS):

vs RHP: .300/.323/.467 (20 PA)
vs LHP: .158/.200/.211 (31 PA)

Also 3 fielding errors through 12 games.

Platoon him in LF with Lombo!

I thought FP made a good point yesterday when he said Harper is facing some real vets in AAA - the AAAA guys who can't cut it in the majors and spend a career shuttling between MLB and AAA. The lefties he's facing are probably mostly junkball pitchers who have a ton of playing experience. Harper is still only 19, so he'll adjust and be fine soon enough.