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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2125 on: September 05, 2011, 09:05:31 am »
Winner - Linty.

She also said that she hated the Philly fans :stir:

That has no relevance to what was said :roll:

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2126 on: September 05, 2011, 09:32:47 am »
That has no relevance to what was said :roll:

Sure it does-it didn't have a damn thing to do with fans, he wanted to be in the strongest rotation possible, and the Yankees rotation looked really craptastic coming into this season.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2127 on: September 05, 2011, 09:35:55 am »
Sure it does-it didn't have a damn thing to do with fans, he wanted to be in the strongest rotation possible, and the Yankees rotation looked really craptastic coming into this season.

I stand by what I said, but believe whatever you like.  That is your MO, after all ;)

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2128 on: September 05, 2011, 09:54:28 am »
Sure it does-it didn't have a damn thing to do with fans, he wanted to be in the strongest rotation possible, and the Yankees rotation looked really craptastic coming into this season.
But the point was that money alone didn't decide things for Lee.  I think you ended up in agreement with Linty and The Chief.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2129 on: September 06, 2011, 10:14:34 am »
He will think twice about playing the Yankees once he enters Yankee Stadium and they boo him mercisely. As long as Nats Park is filled with pro-Harper fans(and it should be if Kasten gets a friggin clue) than he will stay with the Nats.

Kasten still pulling strings behind the curtain?

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2130 on: September 06, 2011, 10:21:51 am »


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Top 10 Favorite Prospects of 2011
by Kevin Goldstein

Last Update: September 2 With the minor league regular season coming to an end over the holiday weekend (the Pioneer League goes a couple of extra days for some reason), it's time to celebrate the year with my 10 favorite prospects of the year. These guys aren’t the best, simply who I would always focus on in the box score, who we learned something about, or who we simply had fun with.

Bryce Harper, OF, Nationals
Injuries limited him to just 109 games, but Harper entered the year as one of, if not the most hyped prospect in the history of the game, and he didn't disappoint, reaching Double-A as an 18-year-old while hitting a combined .297/.392/.501 at the same age as most high school seniors. The reason Harper makes the list isn't because of what he did but more because of what he's created. It seems like more than any other year, questions about why some teenager isn't in Double-A or why this high school draftee isn't going to the Arizona Fall League seemed to come more than ever. I'm not complaining one bit, as the growth in interest when it comes to scouting and player development is both good for me and good for the health of the sport, but newcomers to baseball below the big leagues also miss out a bit as they might not realize just how special a talent like Harper is. He's not an exception to the rule as much as he's an exception to the exceptions. We can't learn much at all from players like that; we just get to enjoy watching them play.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2131 on: September 08, 2011, 01:44:13 pm »
Very nice.

Nats tweeted that Harper will miss the Harrisburg Playoffs but will play in the AFL

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2132 on: September 08, 2011, 06:02:14 pm »
Great news

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2133 on: September 09, 2011, 02:07:35 am »
Damn.  Wanted to see him in the playoffs. 

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2134 on: September 09, 2011, 08:04:35 am »
I thought someone said there is a rule that you have to be active for a certain amount of time before you could go to the AFL.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2135 on: September 09, 2011, 04:55:59 pm »
I'm sure Harper qualifies, he played all year except the last couple of weeks

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2136 on: September 09, 2011, 09:15:03 pm »
I'm sure Harper qualifies, he played all year except the last couple of weeks

Here are the rules, if i'm reading this right, they would have had to have activated Harper before the end of the AA season (maybe it's just that he has to be off the DL at some point in the 45 day window even if he's on it at the end?)

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The eligibility rules to play in the AFL are simple.

The roster size is 30 players per team.

Each Major League organization is required to provide six players subject to the following requirements:

    All Triple-A and Double-A players are eligible, provided the players are on at least a Double-A level roster no later than Aug. 1.
    One player below the Double-A level is allowed per Major League team.
    One foreign player is allowed, as long as the player does not reside in a country that participates in winter ball, as part of the Caribbean Confederation or the Australian winter league.
    No players with more than one year of credited Major League service as of August 31 are eligible, except a team may select one player picked in the most recently concluded Major League Rule 5 Draft.
    To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2137 on: September 09, 2011, 09:20:13 pm »
Yeah, I should have been more clear, I meant activated from the dl, not total active playing time.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2138 on: September 27, 2011, 01:16:28 pm »
Some excerpts from a 9/14 column by Jason Parks, Baseball Prospectus.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15028

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Prospects Will Break Your Heart
2011 Minor-League Awards: Position Players

Best Tools (Present Utility y Projection)
Power: Bryce Harper (Nationals)

TCF: An 80-grade power is rare in the majors, and even more so in the minors. Harper can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with his peers on both levels when it comes to that tool’s potential. His raw strength is off the charts, and his swing isn’t as lengthy and loaded as you would expect from such displays of force. According to every source I sought, Harper’s power will translate to the professional level, even if the hit tool doesn’t allow for a high batting average. Refinement is needed (of course), as Harper’s aggressiveness and stumbles with pitch recognition could lead to some exploitation against pitchers with advanced arsenals. But people will line up with cash in hand to watch him take batting practice (I would), and given the fact that his power will continue to play, Harper sits alone at the top of this list, ahead of other promising power bats like Miguel Sano and Guillermo Pimentel.

The Most Ridiculous Story of the Season
Bryce Harper being a jerk means Bryce Harper has makeup issues.
TCF: This is from my Positional Primacy article on August 16, which I feel best sums up my thoughts on Harper and his “makeup issues.” Again, I’m quoting myself. I’m starting to enjoy it.

“Harper’s ‘makeup issues’ seem to get more water-cooler minutes than Walter White’s latest escapade, as his on-the-field attitude often blurs the line between what is seen as confidence and what is seen as cocky. I’ll take a little of both without much complaint, especially from an 18-year-old who has been anointed as the next deity of the diamond; given the pressures associated with the crown, I think he’s holding it together better than he gets credit for. Being a jerk might be an unattractive quality (I should know, right?), but I’ll take the talented jerk over the talentless sweetheart every time, and so would every team in baseball.

Harper can change the game if he reaches the ceiling created by his physical tools, and that’s a lot of weight to carry around on such young shoulders. Not to belabor the point, but Harper’s mature ability on the field often distorts the reality of his emotional immaturity, which currently lags behind the accelerated development of his physical tools. As observers, it’s easy to lose perspective, as we see the man in the uniform, yet fail to see the teenager underneath it. We also have a tendency to tear down what we build up, and our lofty standards are often tied to our own pedestrian failures. We can’t relate to Harper’s extraordinary ability, so it’s natural to amplify his faults or weaknesses in order to feel more comfortable with our own. I get it. Why do you think I’m so unsympathetic when it comes to Cristiano Ronaldo’s failures? Nobody should bethat good-looking.

My point: Let’s talk about Harper’s ‘makeup’ in a negative light when his actions start affecting his performance in a negative manner. Perhaps that is already the case, and if so I’ll stuff the makeup argument back into my overly agape mouth. But at the present, I just don’t feel like I’m in a position to make that call, so I’m not going to suggest it’s an issue until I actually see it becoming one. ”

The Best Story of the Season
Bryce Harper living up to expectations (and beyond).
TCF: Hype and hope have a tendency to produce failure and frustration, but Harper lived up to the enormous hype, reaching Double-A as an 18-year-old. The precocious power has already made him the most talked-about teenager in recent memory, and despite tasting some failure in his brief 37-game run at Harrisburg, Harper looks prepared to tackle the challenges of the major leagues at some point in the 2012 season. His floor is a first-division regular and his ceiling is a first-ballot bronze bust in Cooperstown, so you know, he’s pretty good. The fact that he hasn’t imploded from the pressure of expectation is a huge story.

The Least-Reported Story of the Season
*Bryce Harper hits a home run for a dying kid, then rescues the dying kid’s dying cat from a very large (and dying) tree. The appreciative (and dying kid) then asked if Harper could sign a ball for her dying friend. Harper told her, “Tell your f*cking dying friend come over here and ask for it her goddamn self.” Classic.**

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2139 on: September 27, 2011, 05:11:56 pm »
I'm really getting sick of the Harper bashing. It's right up there with George Dubya level of bashing when it comes to annoyance and how you only have to walk 10 feet to find it. Leave the kid the alone.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2140 on: September 27, 2011, 06:48:23 pm »
Doesn't bother me.  Let the haters hate while Harper's upper-decking them.  Just gonna make shoving it in their face that much sweeter.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2141 on: September 27, 2011, 07:36:45 pm »
I'm really getting sick of the Harper bashing. It's right up there with George Dubya level of bashing when it comes to annoyance and how you only have to walk 10 feet to find it. Leave the kid the alone.

So you pretty much agree with Parks' points.

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« Reply #2142 on: September 27, 2011, 07:44:22 pm »
So you pretty much agree with Parks' points.

I know it was for satirical purposes. It's just getting real stale real fast considering the Harper hasn't even reached the Big Leagues yet. And the joke was real "Seth McFarlane" quality(I mean that in a negative conitation.)

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2143 on: September 27, 2011, 08:33:02 pm »
I'm really getting sick of the Harper bashing. It's right up there with George Dubya level of bashing when it comes to annoyance and how you only have to walk 10 feet to find it. Leave the kid the alone.

And it's 10x worse than Dubya bashing in terms of ratio of getting it to deserving it.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2144 on: September 27, 2011, 10:24:49 pm »
I know it was for satirical purposes. It's just getting real stale real fast considering the Harper hasn't even reached the Big Leagues yet. And the joke was real "Seth McFarlane" quality(I mean that in a negative conitation.)

He makes his point rather clearly, however:

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My point: Let’s talk about Harper’s ‘makeup’ in a negative light when his actions start affecting his performance in a negative manner.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2145 on: September 28, 2011, 05:38:14 am »
I know it was for satirical purposes. It's just getting real stale real fast considering the Harper hasn't even reached the Big Leagues yet. And the joke was real "Seth McFarlane" quality(I mean that in a negative conitation.)

Seth MacFarlane owns your soul.  That is all.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2146 on: September 28, 2011, 01:53:48 pm »
Seth MacFarlane owns your soul.  That is all.

Craig McCracken owns my soul actually. He is the one who created me, Wilt, Eduardo, Coco, Cheese etc.
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« Reply #2147 on: September 28, 2011, 05:09:34 pm »
Terrible comparison. Harper is awesome at what he does. Dubya not so much.

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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2148 on: September 28, 2011, 07:47:05 pm »
Terrible comparison. Harper is awesome at what he does. Dubya not so much.
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Re: The Bryce Harper Watch
« Reply #2149 on: September 28, 2011, 09:48:07 pm »
No comment.

Harper never would have invaded Iraq, but if he did, he would have won the war by himself.