Time for Guzman to go

[CatsEye]

How are those guys Rizzo's mistake? they all predated his tenure as GM. What do you mean?

             Never said that those guys were Rizzo's mistake; I understand that he inherited them. But his mistake is in the fact that he needs to deal with them and move them out. 
     I think something is in the works for one of them, if I am reading the signs right (Note: the answer to the question about Kearns at the Strasburg Q&A, by Rizzo and Kasten). As to the rest of the players, afraid the needed action will be taken in the off-season. 
                                                                             

[Lintyfresh85]

I'd move Guz to 2B next year and sign a quality SS.

We'd still get his bat, but wouldn't have to deal with the decreasing range to his left.

[hammondsnats]

I'd move Guz to 2B next year and sign a quality SS.

We'd still get his bat, but wouldn't have to deal with the decreasing range to his left.

the SS market is really nothing to write home about next season.  and judging from desmond's defensive numbers in AAA, i highly doubt he is ready to be the everyday SS. 

i say we sign hudson, derosa or figgins.

[blue911]

I'd move Guz to 2B next year and sign a quality SS.

We'd still get his bat, but wouldn't have to deal with the decreasing range to his left.

I've seen this idea of moving Guzman to second floated several times. But I can't recall one single example where this has worked for any MLB player. Moving from short to second is either because of a lack of players at one of the positions or a lack of arm strength. But not lack of range. Shortstops that lose range move to a corner spot.

[DCFan]

I've seen this idea of moving Guzman to second floated several times. But I can't recall one single example where this has worked for any MLB player.

Our own Flop was moved from short to 2nd.

[blue911]

Our own Flop was moved from short to 2nd.

Correct, because we had too many shortstops not because his range was in question.

[DCFan]

Correct, because we had too many shortstops not because his range was in question.

You said you couldn't recall an example of such a move, I provided one. 

[Lintyfresh85]

I've seen this idea of moving Guzman to second floated several times. But I can't recall one single example where this has worked for any MLB player. Moving from short to second is either because of a lack of players at one of the positions or a lack of arm strength. But not lack of range. Shortstops that lose range move to a corner spot.

Yes, but I think his range can be masked at 2B more due to the fact that most of the hard plays he'll have to make are going to his right. Of course, with Dunn at first, his weakness of not getting to balls to his left will look exposed, but I think a position switch would do good for team defense. No one has ever argued the guy couldn't go to his right to get the tough grounders.

That's why I think he'd be a great fit at 2B.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Actually, lots of major league 2d basemen were shortstops in college or high school. Ian Kinsler.  Dustin Pedroia.  But those guys moved after college.  

Mark Grudzielanek might be a better example.  he was almost exclusively a shortstop until 2000, age 30. Won acouple of gold gloves at 2d.   Played well enough that he was still a Type B free agent until last year.  Brian Roberts and Jerry Hairston Jr. came up as SS.  David Eckstein is making the switch the past couple of years.  Brian Zobrist.

But I can't be sure how many of these moves were arm strength or range.  I'm guessing Grudzie was, at least.  Roberts dunno.  Zobrist of course is pushed there due to Bartlett. 

[blue911]

Actually, lots of major league 2d basemen were shortstops in college or high school. Ian Kinsler.  Dustin Pedroia.  But those guys moved after college. 

Mark Grudzielanek might be a better example.  he was almost exclusively a shortstop until 2000, age 30. Won acouple of gold gloves at 2d.   Played well enough that he was still a Type B free agent until last year.  Brian Roberts and Jerry Hairston Jr. came up as SS.  David Eckstein is making the switch the past couple of years.  Brian Zobrist.

But I can't be sure how many of these moves were arm strength or range.  I'm guessing Grudzie was, at least.  Roberts dunno.  Zobrist of course is pushed there due to Bartlett. 

 Grudzielanek may be close, although the Dodgers traded their secondbaseman and their best infielder prospect was a shortstop with better range.

[JMW IV]

the time for Guzman to go was at the trade deadline, this year.

may as well keep him till Free Agency now.

[sportsfan882]

Please get this LAME ASS out of here for once and for all!!

Let Ian Desmond play!! He's killing it in AAA.

13/29 over his last 10 games with 3 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 HR, 5 RBIs, 2 BBs, 4 Ks, 1 SB, 0 CS.


He's batting .350 (50/143) since being promoted to AAA a few months ago.

.350/.429/.477

[CatsEye]

Please get this LAME ASS out of here for once and for all!!

Let Ian Desmond play!! He's killing it in AAA.

               And yet I still don't see him called up. So what is the problem?     

      They take Pete Orr, Morse, Padilla, and Maxwell - no Desmond.......so, is there a problem with this player? 

                                                             

[PatsNats28]

               And yet I still don't see him called up. So what is the problem?     

      They take Pete Orr, Morse, Padilla, and Maxwell - no Desmond.......so, is there a problem with this player? 

                                                             

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/08/maxwell_gets_another_chance.html#more

Though rosters expand on Tuesday, the Nationals will delay most of their call-ups until Class AAA Syracuse's season ends on Sept. 7, Rizzo said. The Chiefs entered Monday 2-1/2 games behind Scranton for first place in the International League's North Division. Rizzo was unwilling to disclose which players the Nationals will bring to the big leagues, but said that "the main crux of the call-ups will be pitching."

[sportsfan882]

well the Chiefs' season is over since they lost last night. No need to delay the call-ups.

Several players off of the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre team that beat the Chiefs last night were called up to the Yankees after the game.

[PatsNats28]

well the Chiefs' season is over since they lost last night. No need to delay the call-ups.

Several players off of the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre team that beat the Chiefs last night were called up to the Yankees after the game.

Um maybe that has something to do with the fact that the Yanks are playing for something, and it's September 1st? Probably would have done the same even if they'd lost.

[sportsfan882]

Um maybe that has something to do with the fact that the Yanks are playing for something, and it's September 1st? Probably would have done the same even if they'd lost.

there is no reason for us to delay the call-ups either. the chiefs are done. let the bums play out the rest of the season for them.

[PatsNats28]

there is no reason for us to delay the call-ups either. the chiefs are done. let the bums play out the rest of the season for them.

not technically speaking. in my mind they're not out of it, and that makes it a fact (... it also IS a fact).

[sportsfan882]

not technically speaking. in my mind they're not out of it, and that makes it a fact (... it also IS a fact).

they are done. needed to sweep Scranton but they lost last night.

now 3.5 games back with only 8 games to play.

[sportsfan882]

another terrible game by the Chiefs tonight. now 4.5 games back. it's over.

As of right now, the Nationals do not plan to take advantage of their expanded roster until September 7, when the season ends for Class AAA Syracuse. Once the Chiefs finish up, several pitchers will likely be among the call-ups. Just one caveat: If Syracuse makes the playoffs -- the team entered Tuesday 3 1/2 games behind first-place Scranton-Wilkes Barre -- those call-ups will again be delayed.

"We have some guys playing down there that will come up here, but right now they are getting the opportunity to play in a playoff atmosphere," Riggleman said. "They're going to play some real meaningful games. Our roster, we're pretty well taken care of right now."

ugh. what a waste of time. these guys could be up here right now

[PatsNats28]

okay, now it's over.

[Galah]

great, I get to watch AAA ball and pay big league prices for it, not my idea of good value frankly.

[thurdl01]

You haven't gotten used to that over the last couple of years?

[Galah]

You haven't gotten used to that over the last couple of years?

Just because I've gotten used to it, doesn't mean I have to like it, just ask my EX-wife.

[sportsfan882]

Nats considering moving Guzman to 2B:

After the season is over, the Nationals are going to try to improve their middle infield defense. They would love to get second baseman Orlando Hudson if he becomes a free agent.

But the Nationals have a Plan B if they can't get Hudson. The team is seriously thinking about moving Cristian Guzman from shortstop to second base and then try to find a defensive-oriented shortstop. Prospect Ian Desmond is a possibility to play shortstop in 2010.

Washington has been concerned about Guzman's defense almost all season. They have been alarmed that Guzman is having a problems going to his left on groundballs. 

http://therocket.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/09/nats_thinking_about_moving_guz.html