Author Topic: Division-Watching (2009) (Read 49842 times)

blue911 · « **Reply #625:** December 03, 2009, 03:31:28 PM »

Quote from: tomterp on December 03, 2009, 03:28:05 PM

He seems to play a pretty decent 2nd to me. Yeah, he goes through a wild phase for a few weeks each season, but I'd leave him there if possible.

So would I, just trying to figure out why they'd sign Polanco.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #626:** December 03, 2009, 04:23:10 PM »

There are radio reports floating around down here that Uggla is a Giant.

Anybody hear anything? I can't find a thing online. If true, I'm closing the office tomorrow and it's party time!

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #627:** December 03, 2009, 08:12:19 PM »

the giants are complete idiots

they traded one of their top sp prospects for freddie frickin sanchez lol

imref · « **Reply #628:** December 04, 2009, 12:38:09 AM »

Quote from: NatsAddict on December 03, 2009, 04:23:10 PM

There are radio reports floating around down here that Uggla is a Giant.

Anybody hear anything? I can't find a thing online. If true, I'm closing the office tomorrow and it's party time!

nothing confirmed yet, they are in the hunt for Uggla, Beltra and/or Johnson.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #629:** December 07, 2009, 10:51:43 AM »

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/soriano-may-accept-arbitration.html

Soriano may accept arbitration screwing the Braves financially. If so, maybe we can grab Kelly Johnson if he gets non-tenderd?
Here's hoping Soriano and Gonzalez both accept arb- it may be our best route into 4th place in the division

houston-nat · « **Reply #630:** December 07, 2009, 01:53:37 PM »

According to MLBTR, the Marlins have not even arrived at Winter Meetings yet. They're coming tonight.

tomterp · « **Reply #631:** December 07, 2009, 02:05:11 PM »

Quote from: houston-nat on December 07, 2009, 01:53:37 PM

According to MLBTR, the Marlins have not even arrived at Winter Meetings yet. They're coming tonight.

Saving a night of hotel costs.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #632:** December 07, 2009, 02:20:51 PM »

Quote from: tomterp on December 07, 2009, 02:05:11 PM

Saving a night of hotel costs.

houston-nat · « **Reply #633:** December 07, 2009, 03:07:12 PM »

TOTALLY UNSOURCED RUMOR: Edwin Jackson is a Met

houston-nat · « **Reply #634:** December 07, 2009, 03:10:50 PM »

Quote from: houston-nat on December 07, 2009, 03:07:12 PM

TOTALLY UNSOURCED RUMOR: Edwin Jackson is a Met

METS OFFICIAL: No he is not

tomterp · « **Reply #635:** December 07, 2009, 03:12:34 PM »

Quote from: houston-nat on December 07, 2009, 03:10:50 PM

METS OFFICIAL: No he is not

Thank God.

houston-nat · « **Reply #636:** December 07, 2009, 03:14:05 PM »

Quote from: tomterp on December 07, 2009, 03:12:34 PM

Thank God.

Twitter is either heaven or hell for news reporting, depending on whether you want "large quantities of stories" or "accuracy."

NatsAddict · « **Reply #637:** December 09, 2009, 09:43:42 AM »

I guess congrats are in order for Ross Gload for getting away from Beinfest and Loria, even if he had to go to Philly to do it.

Bonifacio is now the Marlins power lefty.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #638:** December 09, 2009, 10:52:29 AM »

The Fish are having a LOT of trouble getting rid of Uggla. The rest of the teams recognize Uggla for the LOB/defensively liability he is, and crap for brains Beinfest thinks Uggla is worth a top of rotation pitcher and a couple top prospects. The Giants apparently just told Beinfest to pound salt, and now the Orioles are backing out, and nobody else has shown any interest. It's beginning to look like even with the lowest salary in the game, the Fish will be again pissing away 1/4 of it on a player off the roster just to get rid of yet another Beinfest mistake. At least the dumbass had two years where the highest paid player on the payroll was actually a Marlin.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #639:** December 11, 2009, 11:20:52 AM »

I wish Samson all the best, hopefully finding a new career and getting the hell out of baseball:

http://www.new-theatre.org/SpecialEvents.php

PANatsFan · « **Reply #640:** December 12, 2009, 07:25:24 PM »

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/6608064902

Guess the excuse for firing Girardi was a higher grade of BS than we thought.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #641:** December 13, 2009, 02:27:07 PM »

The Marlins did not tender Nolasco.

Screw you, NatsAddict.

Correction: they DID tender Nolasco a contract.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #642:** December 13, 2009, 02:28:47 PM »

what are you talking about?

houston-nat · « **Reply #643:** December 13, 2009, 02:35:19 PM »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on December 13, 2009, 02:27:07 PM

The Marlins did not tender Nolasco.

Screw you, NatsAddict.

Actually, the Marlins DID tender Nolasco a contract.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #644:** December 13, 2009, 02:45:27 PM »

I meant to say "did tender."

I'm beginning to think NatsAddict posts here just to give Nats fans false hope about everything.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #645:** December 13, 2009, 09:29:59 PM »

If the fish can't find a sucker for Uggla, about 1/5 the payroll just evaporated.

It is sounding like the Fish want to keep Nolasco & JJ, but with Uggla things are screwy.

Helms: $1.0
Hanley: $7.0
Paulino: $1.1
Miller: $2.7
Total under contract: $11.8

Arby (at lowest estimates)
Uggla: $7
JJ: $4.5
Nolasco: $3.0
Cantu: $5.5
Ross: $4.5
Nunez: $2.0
Pinto: $1.5
Total Arby: $28.0

Other 14 at league minumum of $400K: $5.6

Grand Total: $45.4

Loria budget for 2010: $36.0

Need to cut/trade: $9.4
Pinto & Uggla would eliminate about $8.5, but 2 new league minimums would add $800K, netting $7.7 and leaving a net of $1.7 to go. Adding a league minimum of $400K, that means another player with at least $2.1 in 2010 salary is slated to be traded.

The Marlins are short a LH bat off the bench, unless it is Bonifacio, and G*d forbid anybody, even a pitcher, it so bad Bonifacio hits for him. If Pinto is traded, Myers is the sole lefty in the pen, though Miller may end up there and Tankersley could be called up.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #646:** December 17, 2009, 03:00:58 PM »

Nolasco: 1 year for $3.8 per Crasnick on Twitter.

If true, a bit of a budget buster for the Fish. Maybe Loria will try to have the CBA changed and cut 2 league minimum players to get back the $800K.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #647:** December 17, 2009, 04:09:55 PM »

Can't find an online link yet, but Sosnick just confirmed Nolasco's $3.8 on the radio. Sosnick is also Josh Johnson's agent, and if Nolasco just received $3.8, JJ's gotta be in the $6 range.

Maybe Ross or Cantu is leaving along with Uggla. Something else is going to give.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #648:** December 17, 2009, 04:12:36 PM »

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Florida Marlins: Ricky Nolasco agrees to terms
> Posted by Juan C. Rodriguez on December 17, 2009 03:38 PM

Arbitration-eligible right-hander Ricky Nolasco agreed to a one-year, $3.8 million contract. That's a $1.4 million raise from what he earned in 2009. The deal does not have any bonus clauses.

The Marlins now have seven arbitration-eligible players left: Dan Uggla, Jorge Cantu, Cody Ross, Josh Johnson, Anibal Sanchez, Leo Nunez and Renyel Pinto. Players can file for arbitration between Jan. 5-15. Once figures are exchanged on Jan. 19, the Marlins' policy is to stop negotiating and prepare for a hearing.

Florida Marlins | Sun-Sentinel Blogs: Florida Marlins: Ricky Nolasco agrees to terms

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #649:** December 17, 2009, 04:35:45 PM »

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Arbitration-eligible right-hander Ricky Nolasco agreed to a one-year, $3.8 million contract. That's a $1.4 million raise from what he earned in 2009. The deal does not have any bonus clauses.

That's interesting. The SWAG Dave Cameron came up with for arbitration contracts I thnk is .3-.5-.7-.9 of free agent market value for Super 2 arbitration guy. So Nolasco jump from $2.4m to $3.8m is fairly close to in-line with the SWAG in terms of percentage increase year to year, but it seems they price him at $7.6m as a free agent. That seems low and seems to punish him for his ERA last year when, otherwise, when he pitched well. Good price for the Marlins. They can deal him at the deadline if they are noncontenders and he pitches well.