Plan "B"

[ronnynat]

Of course not. What kind of dumb question is that?
Nick will be great for 2 weeks and then get injured. If we had someone in the minors I'd feel safe with giving him a fair shot, but we'll be stuck with no one.

I was wondering if people were thinking Dunn, Abreu, or any of the other available "first basemen" were worth getting, regardless.

[MrMadison]

the only reason we are in this predicament is because NJ can't stay healthy. if he could stay healthy for an entire season, we wouldn't even be talking about this.

I kinda thought that was assumed by all.

[Minty Fresh]

ok...so now we are fantasy trading.

ok.

Nick Johnson, Milledge(or Dukes) and a pitching Prospect(Zimmermann or Detwiler).

who is REALISTICALLY going to give us a YOUNG, prime time power hitting first baseman that is a better power hitter than Adam Dunn for this package, *this* offseason(read: before spring training).

that's the criteria and the question.

ready....go.

Jason Bay?

Sox need 1B, Millz replaces Bay in the OF and if they want we throw in a non-ZimmermanN prospect?

[natsfan4evr]

ok...so now we are on trading.

ok.

Nick Johnson, Milledge(or Dukes) and a pitching Prospect(Zimmermann or Detwiler).

who is REALISTICALLY going to give us a YOUNG, prime time power hitter that is better than Adam Dunn.

that's the criteria and the question.

ready....go.

Stupid move if you ask me
Does everyone believe Rinehart will be the future at 1b? Or maybe Marrero?

[Minty Fresh]

Take a chance on Hafner?  We could probably swap NJ for Hafner straight up.

[sportsfan882]

the only reason we are in this predicament is because NJ can't stay healthy. if he could stay healthy for an entire season, we wouldn't even be talking about this.

Agreed. It's almost unbelievable how he gets injured every single season and these aren't just minor injuries either, these are season-ending injuries.

Is he just cursed or is he just fragile?

[Minty Fresh]

Stupid move if you ask me
Does everyone believe Rinehart will be the future at 1b? Or maybe Marrero?

Willingham can play 1B

[ronnynat]

No, but what are the chances of him making it a whole season? I say trade him.

He had one freak injury and one that could put him on the "fragile" list. Focusing on the second (the torn ligament in his wrist), it's not like players don't come back from that. I'm more worried about whether he'll be ready for ST than if he'll last once he does come back. I think he'll be fine once he's back and playing again. I really do.

[natsfan4evr]

Willingham can play 1B

THEN we are relying on Kearns again.
If Kearns was decent, then yes that could be an option. His numbers last year were abysmal though.

[MrMadison]

Jason Bay?

Sox need 1B, Millz replaces Bay in the OF and if they want we throw in a non-ZimmermanN prospect?

why do the Sox need a 1B again? don't they have Youkilis, and they haven't moved Mike Lowell yet. and they do have that Anderson kid waiting in the wings.

also, they are going to be depending on Jason Bay to pick up the slack for Manny leaving.

they are going to need Jason Bay a lot more this year.

next?

[sportsfan882]

Stupid move if you ask me
Does everyone believe Rinehart will be the future at 1b? Or maybe Marrero?

I think Marrero has a chance a few years from now. 2009 is a big year for both. Rhinehart needs to have a good season in AA while Marrero needs to stay healthy and to re-establish himself as a legitimate prospect in High-A.

[MrMadison]

He had one freak injury and one that could put him on the "fragile" list. Focusing on the second (the torn ligament in his wrist), it's not like players don't come back from that. I'm more worried about whether he'll be ready for ST than if he'll last once he does come back. I think he'll be fine once he's back and playing again. I really do.

seems you are blocking the last 4 or 5 years from your memory and only focusing on last season.

the guy is snakebitten. that's all there is to it.

he needs to go some see voodoo priests and get all that bad juju away from him.

[natsfan4evr]

The ideal situation would be if Anderson Hernandez continues to tear it up and Nick Johnson goes back to 2006 numbers.
Do I expect that? Not a chance in hell. A black cloud seems to be constantly following us.

[Minty Fresh]

Conor Jackson?

[ronnynat]

THEN we are relying on Kearns again.
If Kearns was decent, then yes that could be an option. His numbers last year were abysmal though.

If Willie Harris is a starter in the outfield and Willingham is at first to start the season, I won't complain.

[hammondsnats]

haha it isn't a nats 60+ page thread without fantasy trades.

if it were up to me we'd trade nick johnson, tyler clippard and another prospect to the orioles for brian roberts and hayden penn (or one of their other prospects that are falling out of favor).  then sign dunn. 

we're living in a fantasy world a trade is not going to happen.

[natsfan4evr]

If Willie Harris is a starter in the outfield and Willingham is at first to start the season, I won't complain.

Look, I like Willie and think he is a good guy. He is not an everyday starter though.
He is an awesome utility guy and good bat off the bench. If we are relying on him to play everyday, we really haven't changed much.

[hammondsnats]

I think Marrero has a chance a few years from now. 2009 is a big year for both. Rhinehart needs to have a good season in AA while Marrero needs to stay healthy and to re-establish himself as a legitimate prospect in High-A.

i'm counting on marrero being our everyday 1b starting at least 2011.  bring him up in 2010 for a cup of coffee sometime with dunn still getting most of the starts. 

[hammondsnats]

Look, I like Willie and think he is a good guy. He is not an everyday starter though.
He is an awesome utility guy and good bat off the bench. If we are relying on him to play everyday, we really haven't changed much.

exactly.  if we want to get better for the long run, having guys like willie come off the bench or spell a starter for a sunday game is essential.

[BerkeleyNat]

He had one freak injury and one that could put him on the "fragile" list. Focusing on the second (the torn ligament in his wrist), it's not like players don't come back from that. I'm more worried about whether he'll be ready for ST than if he'll last once he does come back. I think he'll be fine once he's back and playing again. I really do.

You've got faith ronny...I'll give you that. Didn't he miss games with the Yankees also? The guy is cursed.

[ronnynat]

seems you are blocking the last 4 or 5 years from your memory and only focusing on last season.

I'm going by what injuries he's had since he's been here. He played in 131 games in '05, 147 in '06, then the broken leg, then the wrist. I see no guarantee that he'll go down for another entire season. If he is in game shape come ST, I'll be completely fine with us going into the season w/ him at first and Willingham as the starting left fielder/backup first baseman.

Btw, I still think we'll get Dunn.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

haha it isn't a nats 60+ page thread without fantasy trades.

if it were up to me we'd trade nick johnson, tyler clippard and another prospect to the orioles for brian roberts and hayden penn (or one of their other prospects that are falling out of favor).  then sign dunn. 

we're living in a fantasy world a trade is not going to happen.

Why does Kramer need to go to a fantasy camp?  His whole LIFE is a fantasy camp.

[sportsfan882]

Look, I like Willie and think he is a good guy. He is not an everyday starter though.
He is an awesome utility guy and good bat off the bench. If we are relying on him to play everyday, we really haven't changed much.

I agree with that. I love Willie off the bench but I wouldn't prefer him starting on an every-day basis unless there was a dire situation.

I don't think we'll have to go down that path considering we have Mills, Dukes, Kearns, Willingham, and Pena.

[Minty Fresh]

Carlos Lee?

[MrMadison]

Conor Jackson?

didn't they just re-sign him to a longer deal?