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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3300 on: December 22, 2008, 10:52:44 am »
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Asked about Monday about a report out of the Dominican Republic that the Yankees are on the verge of signing Manny Ramirez, general manager Brian Cashman said: "Not true."

We called the Impacto Deportivo report "extremely doubtful" last night and unless Cashman is playing coy that looks to be the case. New York may indeed end up with Ramirez, but there's been nothing to indicate that they're far enough along in talks that a deal could be completed this soon.
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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3301 on: December 22, 2008, 10:58:02 am »
I think Ted Lerner is PISSED OFF with the way MLB screwed him out of Crow...

I see him going above Jimbo's head and just saying I don't care what it costs, just get him.

Just curious... where do you think Bowden is in the chain of command that Ted Lerner has to go over his head, and who's door does he go knock on when he wants to do that?     :)

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« Reply #3302 on: December 22, 2008, 11:11:57 am »
I'm getting some bad feelings about Dunn. I mean, if that OBP and all that is killer, why the hell isn't there much action on his front? Shouldn't teams be knocking on his door, especially teams not in the Teix hunt?

He's a flawed player, particularly defensively.  If he were an average defensive player he'd be much more attractive.

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« Reply #3303 on: December 22, 2008, 11:18:24 am »
He's a flawed player, particularly defensively.  If he were an average defensive player he'd be much more attractive.

Oh great, he should definitely fit in here in DC along with the other Misfit Toys. :roll:


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« Reply #3304 on: December 22, 2008, 11:41:47 am »
Oh great, he should definitely fit in here in DC along with the other Misfit Toys. :roll:

If he played 1B here, our infield deense would be a disaster on a good day and a catastrophe on an average day.

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« Reply #3305 on: December 22, 2008, 11:45:59 am »
The difference between Dunn and Tex is Tex gives us the best corner and possibly the best infield defense in the league.  Dunn...um...doesn't, possibly one of the worst and will cost Zim a lot of money.  Zim has the most to gain by Tex coming here, both offensively and defensively.

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« Reply #3306 on: December 22, 2008, 11:46:45 am »
The difference between Dunn and Tex is Tex gives us the best corner and possibly the best infield defense in the league.  Dunn...um...doesn't, possibly one of the worst and will cost Zim a lot of money.

But at least Austin Kearns would be happy. :lol:

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« Reply #3307 on: December 22, 2008, 11:52:03 am »
But at least Austin Kearns would be happy. :lol:

Not if we put Dunn in the outfield and Kearns rides pine. ;)

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« Reply #3308 on: December 22, 2008, 11:59:58 am »
I'm getting some bad feelings about Dunn. I mean, if that OBP and all that is killer, why the hell isn't there much action on his front? Shouldn't teams be knocking on his door, especially teams not in the Teix hunt?
 
In addition to Tom's comment, that might also be explained by the fact that Dunn's agent knows that most, if not all, of the teams interested in Tex who fall short in their bid to get him will then turn to Dunn, so from the perspective of the Dunn 'camp', it would be unwise to start the bidding process before all of the interested parties have arrived at the auction, especially when you will have a very good idea how much those Tex rejects were just putting out on the table.  All in the interest of starting a bidding war for Dunn's services.  Of course the bidding won't go as high as the bidding on Tex has, but I'd be surprised if it didn't start at (at least) $15m a year for 3 years and climb from there.

I've seen Dunn's name mentioned in connection with the Cubs, Angels, Orioles, and Nats, and that's without even looking, so there's probably some others too. 
 
 

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« Reply #3309 on: December 22, 2008, 12:07:10 pm »
 
In addition to Tom's comment, that might also be explained by the fact that Dunn's agent knows that most, if not all, of the teams interested in Tex who fall short in their bid to get him will then turn to Dunn, so from the perspective of the Dunn 'camp', it would be unwise to start the bidding process before all of the interested parties have arrived at the auction, especially when you will have a very good idea how much those Tex rejects were just putting out on the table.  All in the interest of starting a bidding war for Dunn's services.  Of course the bidding won't go as high as the bidding on Tex has, but I'd be surprised if it didn't start at (at least) $15m a year for 3 years and climb from there.

I've seen Dunn's name mentioned in connection with the Cubs, Angels, Orioles, and Nats, and that's without even looking, so there's probably some others too. 
 
 

Sloppy seconds. Yum.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3310 on: December 22, 2008, 12:29:28 pm »
Just curious... where do you think Bowden is in the chain of command that Ted Lerner has to go over his head, and who's door does he go knock on when he wants to do that?     :)

Well Jimbo's job is to take care of this stuff. Lerner's job is to just shell out the cash.
I mean that Lerner might take over and not allow Jimbo to screw this up.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3311 on: December 22, 2008, 12:32:36 pm »
Well Jimbo's job is to take care of this stuff. Lerner's job is to just shell out the cash.
I mean that Lerner might take over and not allow Jimbo to screw this up.

Anyone else have a 'Fargo' flashback here?  That didn't end up well. 

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« Reply #3312 on: December 22, 2008, 12:43:44 pm »
Sloppy seconds. Yum.

If we loose Tex, I can understand that, but if we loose Tex and then the Angles get Dunn, I'll be pissed

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« Reply #3313 on: December 22, 2008, 12:59:01 pm »
If we loose Tex, I can understand that, but if we loose Tex and then the Angles get Dunn, I'll be pissed

Be careful what you wish for.  Dunn's homers will provide temporary excitement.  I'm not sure Dunn's addition makes us a better team.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3314 on: December 22, 2008, 12:59:11 pm »
anyone heard from our friend from Maine?

Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3315 on: December 22, 2008, 01:03:12 pm »
LackLUSTER Baloney sums up the Teix Sweepstakes as it stands today:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3786801&name=olney_buster

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The Nationals reportedly made an eight-year, $160 million offer. It's unclear whether they have upgraded that offer during this process, and it's unclear whether Teixeira is absolutely open to the idea of playing for a team that figures to struggle for at least a couple of more seasons. Privately, folks within the organization are telling others that they are very pessimistic about their chances, and one high-ranking executive has indicated to confidants that he has not altered his initial offer.

A smoke screen? We'll see.

I really wonder what narcotic he uses to get his information.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3316 on: December 22, 2008, 01:05:19 pm »
LackLUSTER Baloney sums up the Teix Sweepstakes as it stands today:

I really wonder what narcotic he uses to get his information.

Perhaps he's going to do a biography on Doc Ellis and wants to delve into the character?

Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3317 on: December 22, 2008, 01:07:21 pm »
Perhaps he's going to do a biography on Doc Ellis and wants to delve into the character?

Doc Ellis would bean him in the face if he were still alive.

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« Reply #3318 on: December 22, 2008, 01:09:40 pm »
If we loose Tex, I can understand that, but if we loose Tex and then the Angles get Dunn, I'll be pissed

Absolutely! For all his deficiencies, Dunn represents the best realistic chance to improve our offense in the next few years: the Nats have few position player prospects (as opposed to pitchers) to get excited about and the ones they have are Low-A/A. And, of course, they're prospects. Dukes has potential and has shown flashes. Then again, his potential and flashes also include violations of the Florida Criminal Code.  :evil:

Without a real clean-up hitter, the Nats will continue to hit Zim third or fourth, instead of fifth or sixth; he will continue to press and he will not fulfill his promise. Without a real clean-up hitter, the Nats have to hope that everyone -- and I mean everyone -- stays healthy or they risk another stinker like last year and permanent afterthought status here in DC.

I know: it's over the top and Dunn is hardly a baseball messiah but last year was almost unbearable. The AAAA lineups almost killed my love of the game, which was previously thought impossible. They were arguably the worst-hitting team I've ever cheered for and as someone who grew up rooting for the Mets of Ed Kranepool, Ed Charles, Bud Harrelson and Ron Swoboda, that's saying a lot. Our second basemen made Felix Millan look like Rogers Hornsby and Pete Orr. Oy! Peter effin' Orr.  :'(



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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3319 on: December 22, 2008, 01:18:06 pm »
How about Pat the Bat and move Willingham to 1st. Is that a possibility?

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« Reply #3320 on: December 22, 2008, 01:23:19 pm »
How about Pat the Bat and move Willingham to 1st. Is that a possibility?

Willingham to 1st is a definite possibility, but Burrell bats right, and the Nats really want to find a left handed bat to break up the many righties in the lineup as it stands now.

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« Reply #3321 on: December 22, 2008, 01:24:30 pm »
Hey guys just wanted to fill ya in. Our source is on vacation as well as MANY reporters. We got 2 emails from 2 MAJOR baseball writers, guys you would consider impeccable baseball writers, to say basically its vacation week and unless someone calls them a deal is done, its vacation week. Our source would not add anything new, still stands by the original statement.

I think if you read the new post on MLBTraderumors.com that you can come to the same realistic conclusion that the Nats deal was the biggest from the start, Boras wanted a "high profile" team, none of which met Boras' demands, so that leaves the Nats...IMO. If we hear anything we will post it, but my guess is that nothing gets done this week, unless it gets done today.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3322 on: December 22, 2008, 01:33:06 pm »
I think if you read the new post on MLBTraderumors.com that you can come to the same realistic conclusion that the Nats deal was the biggest from the start, Boras wanted a "high profile" team, none of which met Boras' demands, so that leaves the Nats...IMO. If we hear anything we will post it, but my guess is that nothing gets done this week, unless it gets done today.

Thats how I feel on this. If any other team were to have the highest offer, he definitely would have taken it. Its us on top, and Boras is trying to get someone else close to match it. Hes been doing this for a week or two and I have a feeling he will stop soon enough. With the Angels dropped out and seeing as the Red Sox havent budged since thursday night, he may just stop being an jerk and get in the christmas spirit.

(the last sentence was all bull crap)

Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3323 on: December 22, 2008, 01:33:55 pm »
So everyone still knows absolutely jackcrap? Thanks for the update.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3324 on: December 22, 2008, 01:35:15 pm »
Thanks Jeff ... Happy Holidays to you ...