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Offline rileyn

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2018
« on: October 14, 2017, 10:21:43 am »
It's going to be Groundhog Day every day next year.  In fact, it will be Groundhog Season.

So who are we going to play in the NLDS next year?  Chicago again?  St. Louis? 

LF Eaton
SS Turner
RF Harper
3B Rendon
2B Murphy
1B Zimm
CF Taylor
C anybody

It is what it is.  We have to run it back next year and hope for a better NLDS performance.

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2018
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 10:50:22 am »
The Nats are the harlot of the NL.  Everyone gets a turn.  Next year will probably be Brewers or Pirates.  Even worse, maybe an in-division opponent like the Mets or Marlins.

Offline aspenbubba

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Re: 2018
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 08:59:29 pm »
The Nats are the harlot of the NL.  Everyone gets a turn.  Next year will probably be Brewers or Pirates.  Even worse, maybe an in-division opponent like the Mets or Marlins.
Harlot?? Who in the hell uses that word anymore.

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2018
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 09:03:38 pm »
Anyone who describes your mother, for one.

Offline Slateman

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Re: 2018
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 09:03:53 pm »
If we waste Eaton in LF, I'll lose any faith remaining in this team. Eaton is a top 3 defender in RF. Bryce Harper is, at best, average in RF. He takes meh routes, doesn't have as much range as Eaton, and can't hit a cuttoff man to save his life. Put him in LF where he belongs. It'll be his warm up season for 2019 in NYC.

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Re: 2018
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 09:35:54 pm »
Anyone who describes your mother, for one.

FY asshat

Offline Count Walewski

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Re: 2018
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 09:57:28 pm »
Per the surgery thread, we should probably not assume Murphy will be ready for opening day.

Offline rileyn

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Re: 2018
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 08:09:07 am »
If we waste Eaton in LF, I'll lose any faith remaining in this team. Eaton is a top 3 defender in RF. Bryce Harper is, at best, average in RF. He takes meh routes, doesn't have as much range as Eaton, and can't hit a cuttoff man to save his life. Put him in LF where he belongs. It'll be his warm up season for 2019 in NYC.
Ok, flip flop them.  NO big deal.  Hell, it's the last year of Harper so maybe we should get our moneys worth and play him at catcher for all I care. 

Regarding Murphy, in the NL East, we should be okay letting him ease back into the lineup.  Difo can hold down the fort until Murph is ready.

Offline Smithian

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Re: 2018
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2017, 09:28:40 am »
SS Turner
LF Eaton
3B Rendon
RF Harper
2B Murphy
1B Zimmerman
CF Taylor
C  Wieters

Difo and Goodwin give you a good bench right off the bat. Lind is gone and they'll plug in a 1B/LF with some pop.

Scherzer
Strasburg
Gonzalez
Roark
Ross/FA

Game 5 was bad but you can't move Gio unless there is a good return. He was too good this season. The top two of the rotation are awesome. Roark had a down season but I am comfortable slotting him in next year. They need to find a solid, durable back of the rotation starter.

Bullpen is complicated but with Doolittle and arms we have we go into next season better than we began this one.

Should be a good team. I expect regression from Zim, but if he is even average then that lineup should scorch people. Ridiculous offense. Pitching staff needs some help at the end of the rotation and in the middle innings but there is potential.

About ready for Spring.

Offline Slateman

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Re: 2018
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2017, 10:38:00 am »
Rizzo isn't going to return with the same team. There has to be a major move, like every offseason

Offline Mattionals

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Re: 2018
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2017, 11:46:57 am »
Rizzo isn't going to return with the same team. There has to be a major move, like every offseason

I'm thinking the OF will go without an addition unless the Nats package Taylor in a deal but if he has turned a corner and is a .260/.320/.480 with exceptional Fielding in CF, then he is a cheap piece you hang onto with Eaton. Harper, Taylor, Eaton from left to right is a good defensive and offensive OF.

IF is still set with Rendon, Turner, Murphy, and Zim. Catcher is the obvious upgrade but they would likely have to move Wieters and part of his salary which likely won't happen.

Scherzer, Stras, Gio, and Roark are locks. Roark doesn't make a ton and Gio probably has enough value to stay because a hole needs to be filled with the fifth guy. I don't see the Nats spending big money for Darvish. Arrietta might fit with the Boras connection but he looks to slot behind Stras but get virtually the same money. Otani probably can't come here because of the International spending limits. I could see a trade for a mid rotation guy like Samardzija or someone similar.

Bullpen is an obvious spot for upgrades. Davis, Holland, and Neshak head up the list. I think Doolittle sticks as closer so any of those guys as 7th or 8th inning to go with Madson is solid.

Bench could use help, but I guess Severino replaces Lobaton as back up catcher. Difo replaces Drew. Bringing back Lind could definitely work. Not sure how much Kendrick has left in the tank or if he wants to be a bench guy.

The blockbuster could always be a Harper extension, but I think that is delusional.

Offline MorseTheHorse

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Re: 2018
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2017, 12:28:07 pm »
I don't care how good Gio is regular season next year, he should never be allowed on a playoff roster again. 

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2018
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2017, 04:39:44 pm »
Sadly, I can't see Gio being left off of a postseason roster unless he has an exceptionally bad year as a starter.  He needs to be placed where he can do the least damage, so put him in a middle game in the series where he doesn't have to go twice, if nothing else.

Offline HattoriHanzo

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Re: 2018
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2017, 10:15:31 pm »
If the nats want Ohtani then they should sign his idol Darvish but I doubt the dodgers let that happen. Nats fans better enjoy Harper as he's most likely going to the dodgers as well where pops can watch him play more often.

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Re: 2018
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2017, 03:29:16 am »
That's silly.  How about Gio taking on a role as a spot reliever in the playoffs ?

I don't care how good Gio is regular season next year, he should never be allowed on a playoff roster again. 

Offline NatsAllThe Way

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Re: 2018
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 08:46:20 am »
That's silly.  How about Gio taking on a role as a spot reliever in the playoffs ?


In a mop up role, I'm ok with it.

Offline Optics

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Re: 2018
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 09:48:20 am »
The lineup should be good. I'd love to go out and get a new C(if one is available)but most likely we're stuck with Weiters and have to start him due to his salary(see Werth situation).

My guess is Rizzo swings a big deal for a SP to create a Big 3 with Scherzer and Strasburg and we move Gio and Roark down a slot each. Probably will try to transition Ross to the pen also but who knows if/when he'll be ready.

Offline Ray D

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Re: 2018
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2017, 10:16:07 am »
In a mop up role, I'm ok with it.
You wouldn't put a guy on a playoff roster just for mopup, unless there is nobody left who could fill a normal role.

Offline Ray D

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Re: 2018
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 10:19:02 am »
That's silly.  How about Gio taking on a role as a spot reliever in the playoffs ?

Gio as a reliever seems similar to Edwin Jackson as a reliever - guys who are generally worse the first inning than subsequent innings.  So as a spot reliever for one inning, we'd be getting his worst.

Offline aspenbubba

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Re: 2018
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2017, 10:24:51 am »
Gio as a reliever seems similar to Edwin Jackson as a reliever - guys who are generally worse the first inning than subsequent innings.  So as a spot reliever for one inning, we'd be getting his worst.
I agree and he doesn't have the mental make up to be a reliever of any type. If we obtain a # 3 SP than let Roark and Gio battle it out for who will be the 4th and hopefully we won't have to employ either like this year.

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Re: 2018
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2017, 10:51:05 am »
I would kind of like to see us bring in a lefty starter under team control for a few seasons to start the transition away from Gio. 

Offline Slateman

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Re: 2018
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2017, 12:03:35 pm »
That's silly.  How about Gio taking on a role as a spot reliever in the playoffs ?

Give his first inning woes, that seems like a terrible idea

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2018
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2017, 12:10:34 pm »
And given his complete aversion to pressure.  You have to have ice running through your veins to be a ML reliever in the postseason.  Gio is the opposite of that.