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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2014, 08:31:40 pm »
LOL are you serious? I think he's looked as good at first this year as he's ever had since he's been a Nat

WAR uses UZR for its defensive input (funny how fangraphs main stat has an input that fangraphs itself doesn't consider an accurate indicator with a sample size of under three years) and UZR has him at -3.3

Offline wpa2629

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2014, 08:40:46 pm »
WAR uses UZR for its defensive input (funny how fangraphs main stat has an input that fangraphs itself doesn't consider an accurate indicator with a sample size of under three years) and UZR has him at -3.3

Yeah, sometimes "advanced metrics" are all wet.  I watch a lot of baseball and LaRoche fields his position as well as anyone in the game

Offline blue911

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2014, 08:56:03 pm »
Yeah, sometimes "advanced metrics" are all wet.  I watch a lot of baseball and LaRoche fields his position as well as anyone in the game

His mobility has been hampered by his quad issues.

Offline wpa2629

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2014, 09:02:20 pm »
His mobility has been hampered by his quad issues.

There was a stretch where the quad was a noticeable problem. But since he came off the DL, he seems just as mobile as he's always been to me.

Offline houston-nat

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2014, 08:50:53 am »
doesn't Rendon get a bump from positional adjustment
Yup, that was what I slangily referred to as a "tougher job"... I think the reason FanGraphs doesn't hire me is because I refer to metrics in dumb-people speak  8)

Offline MorseTheHorse

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2014, 10:10:42 pm »
Ramos?

Edited to add:  I think there is a good argument the teams' performance drops off the most when he isn't in the lineup.  That's one way to define value.  The fact he isn't in the lineup all the time is a good reason to not label him most valuable...

Offline mitlen

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Re: Most Valuable Nat
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2014, 10:24:10 pm »