Nationals @ Phillies, Game 1

[Lintyfresh85]

A torn shoulder?

That he's played with since before ST.

He also hit .381 in ST with the same shoulder injury. Sure didn't seem to bother him then.

[Kevrock]

Injuries like torn rotator cuffs never get worse as you play on them.

[The Chief]

I can't believe you guys are arguing about this.  Dunn has a better bat.  LaRoche has a better glove.  There is no argument, current lines be damned.  The only thing to argue about is whether one makes up for the other, and that's been done to death already.

[hammondsnats]

I can't believe you guys are arguing about this.  Dunn has a better bat.  LaRoche has a better glove.  There is no argument, current lines be damned.  The only thing to argue about is whether one makes up for the other, and that's been done to death already.

True

[blue911]

I can't believe you guys are arguing about this.  Dunn has a better bat.  LaRoche has a better glove.  There is no argument, current lines be damned.  The only thing to argue about is whether one makes up for the other, and that's been done to death already.

Yep. I didn't know it was a mortal sin to say that Dunn/LaRoche was off to a slow start.

[PANatsFan]

Dunn had his freaking appendix removed. He started off hot before that, and he'll be hot soon enough.

What's LaRoche's excuse?

I had my appendix out, I was back to normal in like 3 days, and mine ruptured.

[comish4lif]

I had my appendix out, I was back to normal in like 3 days, and mine ruptured.

Were you playing a professional sport in 3 days?

[comish4lif]

Injuries like torn rotator cuffs never get worse as you play on them.

With LaRoche, isn't it his labrum? Either way, you're right, it ain't gonna just heal itself.

[blue911]

With LaRoche, isn't it his labrum? Either way, you're right, it ain't gonna just heal itself.

I, for one, don't understand why they don't take care of it now.

[MarquisDeSade]

I, for one, don't understand why they don't take care of it now.

Probably 60 days on the DL. 

[comish4lif]

Probably 60 days on the DL. 

more like 6 months for the shoulder reconstruction. Look at Wang and Flores...

[MarquisDeSade]

more like 6 months for the shoulder reconstruction. Look at Wang and Flores...

Where is Wang anyway?  What happened to all of the "if he returns to 2007 form" nonsense?

[blue911]

more like 6 months for the shoulder reconstruction. Look at Wang and Flores...

Then LaRoche is one tough son of a nag. His injury is more than likely less severe than Zimmerman's SLAP tear in '08.

[Nat of the Living Dead]

Does anyone know how many runs Doug Slaten has allowed to score, but never gets charged with them? I thought I saw a stat somewhere that he has let something like 12 runs go across the plate, but maintains his deceiving 0.00 ERA.

[sportsfan882]

Does anyone know how many runs Doug Slaten has allowed to score, but never gets charged with them? I thought I saw a stat somewhere that he has let something like 12 runs go across the plate, but maintains his deceiving 0.00 ERA.

He has been the worst pitcher on the team but gets a free pass because of his 0.00 ERA.

His sole job is to get lefties out yet they are hitting .400/.438/.600 off him. Epic Failure and it's not short sample statistics because his job is to get out a batter or two when we call upon him so this is like 14-15 separate failures. He stinks, last year was a fluke.

[blue911]

Does anyone know how many runs Doug Slaten has allowed to score, but never gets charged with them? I thought I saw a stat somewhere that he has let something like 12 runs go across the plate, but maintains his deceiving 0.00 ERA.

About half way down

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/slatedo01-pitch.shtml

[tomterp]

About half way down

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/slatedo01-pitch.shtml

 

Last year allowed 15% of inherited runners to score, this year 45% so far. 

[blue911]

Last year allowed 15% of inherited runners to score, this year 45% so far.  

If you look at the game logs they give you WPA & RE24, which are better stats for judging relief pitchers. Inherited runners treats all runs scored as equals (i.e. a run allowed with the bases loaded  & no outs is the same as runner on first & 2 outs)

[Kevrock]

With LaRoche, isn't it his labrum? Either way, you're right, it ain't gonna just heal itself.

I've seen it called a torn labrum and a torn rotator cuff.

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-nationals/2011/3/27/2075587/washington-nationals-adam-laroche-injury

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/adam-laroche-out-after-he-took-a-few-steps-backward-with-shoulder-injury/2011/04/09/AFU6lY9C_blog.html