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"We have two different styles," he said. "I still have more arm strength than he does, just because I was a conventional pitcher before I became a knuckleballer. He was a position player. I still have a little bit of a fastball. And my knuckleball is probably on average about 6 or 7 mph harder than his."That doesn't make it better. That's just the way it is. If you ask somebody that was intimate with what a knuckleball does and is, I'd say they would probably liken me more to Joe Niekro, Phil's brother -- a guy who threw kind of hard and mixed in other pitches as well from time to time. But if we're throwing it good, then it's good. It comes out with no rotation and then it's hard to hit."