Author Topic: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason  (Read 87581 times)

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Offline Mattionals

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Re: Hot Stove: 2019-2020 Offseason
« Reply #775: December 04, 2019, 03:54:00 PM »
Wheeler struck me as a guy with the stuff to be better than he's been...like Cole was before he left Pitt for Houston.  I dn't know that the Phillies are the organization to unlock that potential.  I think he'll be good, not great, for them.

I don't see it. Take into consideration the two organizations that Cole and Wheeler came from. The Pirates were notorious for pushing their pitchers to pitch to contact and avoid the high K numbers as it was something that worked for them. Essentially Pittsburgh was pushing their starters to be two seamer happy since that really seemed to work (lol, no pun intended) for their scrap heap fixes like Morton, Burnett, and Liriano.

Wheeler on the other hand has played for the Mets, who have really pushed the strikeout pitcher. I haven't heard anything about altering Wheeler's mechanics or pitch selection to increase groundballs and not pitch to the strikeout, so I'm weary to think or say that there is "unlocked potential". Could he get better? Sure he could, but also remember that he is older than Cole and Cole has already turned that corner. Cole basically morphed into an ace when going to Houston around the same age that Scherzer took that next step with the Tigers. I just don't see 10+ K/9 and sub 2 BB/9 along with 200+ innings going deep into starts from Wheeler. Then again, those metrics I posted are becoming ever more rare these days.

I think the Phillies probably paid the right amount, but he isn't a one and they don't have the bullpen to bail him out. Essentially Wheeler gets paid a bunch but lines up behind Nola, and unless that offense really starts slugging, it would be hard to win with a psuedo-Ace, a number three, and a bunch of throw ins.