Author Topic: MLB & Division Watching (2015) (Read 77951 times)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Topic Start:** April 05, 2015, 06:20:48 PM »

Kimbrel and BJ Upton to the Padres for Cameron Maybin and Carlos Quentin.

pazzo83 · « **Reply #1:** April 05, 2015, 06:26:57 PM »

Umm:

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 4m4 minutes ago
Complete deal: Kimbrel and B.J. from #Braves to #Padres for Quentin, Maybin, Wisler, Paroubeck and 41st pick.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2:** April 05, 2015, 06:27:32 PM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on April 05, 2015, 06:20:48 PM

Kimbrel and BJ Upton to the Padres for Cameron Maybin and Carlos Quentin.

uptons that play together get in each others way together.

So they had to wrap BJ up in a package with Kimbrel in order to find a taker?

UMDNats · « **Reply #3:** April 05, 2015, 06:27:59 PM »

atlanta really doing weird things

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #4:** April 05, 2015, 06:27:59 PM »

I'm guessing BJ probably just gets cut.

blue911 · « **Reply #5:** April 05, 2015, 06:29:32 PM »

Braves are getting Matt Wisler,who is a fine pitching prospect.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #6:** April 05, 2015, 06:29:59 PM »

Holy buckets.

mitlen · « **Reply #7:** April 05, 2015, 06:39:14 PM »

Don't know much about seeing things coming but certainly didn't see this coming.

PC · « **Reply #8:** April 05, 2015, 06:43:24 PM »

The Braves are really mailing it in this season.

Slateman · « **Reply #9:** April 05, 2015, 06:43:25 PM »

Thats it? A very good prospect, a C+ OF prospect, and a pick would have gotten Kimbrel?

At the very least, it's the baseline for a Chapman deal.

Manly · « **Reply #10:** April 05, 2015, 06:44:25 PM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on April 05, 2015, 06:27:59 PM

I'm guessing BJ probably just gets cut.

Even though they're on the hook for his $14m?

I'm keeping him around, if only to keep his bro company

blue911 · « **Reply #11:** April 05, 2015, 06:44:30 PM »

Braves trim $54M off their payroll if it's a straight up deal.

PC · « **Reply #12:** April 05, 2015, 06:44:45 PM »

Getting rid of BJ Upton's contract is priceless.

Manly · « **Reply #13:** April 05, 2015, 06:45:11 PM »

Primary thought is that this is much better news for Miami & New York than it is for us.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #14:** April 05, 2015, 06:45:37 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 05, 2015, 06:43:25 PM

Thats it? A very good prospect, a C+ OF prospect, and a pick would have gotten Kimbrel?

BJ has negative value given his contract. They might have gotten more for Kimbrel alone.

ElOsoBlanco · « **Reply #15:** April 05, 2015, 06:50:31 PM »

So you guys are gonna get at least 15 wins off us this year.

mmzznnxx · « **Reply #16:** April 05, 2015, 06:51:09 PM »

If the Nats were going to see Kimbrel at all this season it would mean that game went horribly wrong, but still I guess it's good that if we're down in the 9th for some reason against that AAAA team, we don't have to face Kimbrel.

varoadking · « **Reply #17:** April 05, 2015, 06:53:31 PM »

So is he B.J. again?

Vega · « **Reply #18:** April 05, 2015, 06:54:21 PM »

Good job by Atlanta getting rid of BJ. Yeah, Quentin and Maybin are pretty bad contracts themselves, but at least Upton is gone now, and Maybin has some degree of reclamation project upside. Also good job trading Kimbrel. They did what KC didn't when they had Joakim Soria, and that is trade a dominant closer when you're crappy. KC refused to deal Soria for years and then he got hurt and they got nothing for him. Atlanta was wise to avoid that.

varoadking · « **Reply #19:** April 05, 2015, 06:54:38 PM »

Quote from: Manly on April 05, 2015, 06:45:11 PM

Primary thought is that this is much better news for Miami & New York than it is for us.

Philly too...likely keeps them out of the cellar...

Slateman · « **Reply #20:** April 05, 2015, 06:55:30 PM »

Quote from: Vega on April 05, 2015, 06:54:21 PM

Good job by Atlanta getting rid of BJ. Yeah, Quentin and Maybin are pretty bad contracts themselves, but at least Upton is gone now, and Maybin has some degree of reclamation project upside. Also good job trading Kimbrel. They did what KC didn't when they had Joakim Soria, and that is trade a dominant closer when you're crappy. KC refused to deal Soria for years and then he got hurt and they got nothing for him. Atlanta was wise to avoid that.

Problem is that the Braves don't teach hitting well. So I wonder how good those reclmation projects are going to end up.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #21:** April 05, 2015, 06:59:06 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 05, 2015, 06:55:30 PM

Problem is that the Braves don't teach hitting well. So I wonder how good those reclmation projects are going to end up.

Can we really say that? The past regime, perhaps, but they're under new management now. Kevin Seltzer did some good work in Kansas City. Can't really say how well they will or won't do yet.

Vega · « **Reply #22:** April 05, 2015, 07:00:15 PM »

And San Diego's bullpen is gonna be amazing this year. Kimbrel, Benoit, Quackenbush, Thayer, Maurer, etc is utterly phenomenal.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #23:** April 05, 2015, 07:00:40 PM »

Quote from: Manly on April 05, 2015, 06:45:11 PM

Primary thought is that this is much better news for Miami & New York than it is for us.

Maybe, but Kimbrel owned the Nats. Not that whomever they replace him won't, but now they won't have to fight against one of their biggest nemesis' of recent years.

Vega · « **Reply #24:** April 05, 2015, 07:01:51 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on April 05, 2015, 06:55:30 PM

Problem is that the Braves don't teach hitting well. So I wonder how good those reclmation projects are going to end up.

They probably don't care that much. I'm sure they'd prefer that they panned out reasonably well so that they could be re-dealt later on, but they aren't looking to win right now, so it doesn't matter too much.