Injuries 2024

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Winker and Weems apparently came down with a stomach bug today. Davey said “at least he held it” in reference to Winker getting through the first.

after effects of Cinci chili.

Edit - I'm putting the link to the MLB.com injury and roster moves page into every 1st post of pages of this thread so you can find full info easily.
https://www.mlb.com/news/nationals-injuries-and-roster-moves
JCA

[Mattionals]

after effects of Cinci chili.

Yuck.

[imref]

Vic getting an MRI today. Someone is likely heading here from Rochester (probably Young).

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Reminds me of The Natural, where Robert Redford doesn't get a chance to play until the CF runs through a fence. In this case, going from 1st to 3rd for Vic and Young.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

4/3 update on injuries:

Ferrer got an MRI after what they say has been some progress. They were waiting on results that they were hoping to get last night.

Garrett is going back to West Palm to start to get in some game action. Hoping to play 5-6 innings in his first game, then go every day in minor league action.

https://www.mlb.com/nationals/news/nationals-injuries-and-roster-moves

[imref]

With Garrett coming back in a month or so, barring another injury Rosario appears to be on a short leash.

[Slateman]

4/3 update on injuries:

Ferrer got an MRI after what they say has been some progress. They were waiting on results that they were hoping to get last night.

Garrett is going back to West Palm to start to get in some game action. Hoping to play 5-6 innings in his first game, then go every day in minor league action.

https://www.mlb.com/nationals/news/nationals-injuries-and-roster-moves

If Garrett is coming back, and can play OF, maybe they call up Alex Call to be the 5th OFer/LHP platoon specialist.

Rather see Young get a chance to play every day

[imref]

Vic heading to the IL, no word as to how long. Young coming up.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

makes sense. It'll be interesting to see whether they bump Crews or Hassell to AAA to backfill for Young.

Young should get an every day run in CF, with Rosario, Winker (when he's over the Cinci chili), Meneses, and Gallo hopefully trading a seat on the bench while Young plays.

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10-day for Vic.

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Abrams a late scratch today. Possible left hand injury from sliding yesterday per Zuck

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Abrams day-to-day with a bone bruise on his left pinky finger

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Senzel heading to Harrisburg next week for a rehab assignment per Davey.

[NatsAllThe Way]

Abrams hopefully back before September.

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Golden:

Dave Martinez said shortstop CJ Abrams will participate in all baseball activity today. He’s hopeful that Abrams will be in the lineup tomorrow.

The biggest area of concern is hitting. Still some discomfort with his top hand when he swings.

[Slateman]

https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1777775136541696395?s=46&t=KpKo-quuv_Pogl5PIM3m8A

Gray to the IL with right elbow/forearm flexor strain

[Mattionals]

https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1777775136541696395?s=46&t=KpKo-quuv_Pogl5PIM3m8A

Gray to the IL with right elbow/forearm flexor strain

Has he had TJS yet?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1777775136541696395?s=46&t=KpKo-quuv_Pogl5PIM3m8A

Gray to the IL with right elbow/forearm flexor strain

yow! could explain some of his troubles this year. Fitting tribute to Stras's announcement.



You wonder whether, with all his added pitches, he's just contorting and beating up his arm.

Here's a discussion (Jay Jaffe) that goes through some of the widely-discussed theories on the apparent rash of arm injuries. This past weekend really didn't help with so many getting announced at once (Strider, Bieber, Eury Perez, Loaisiga).
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-ucl-tears-prompt-pointed-exchange-few-answers-to-baseballs-thorny-mess/

Tony Clark and the MLBPA have pointed to the pitch clock as limiting recovery between pitches.

To varying degrees, Fleisig, Meister, ElAttrache and the now-retired Dr. James Andrews have all publicly pointed to the extra stress on arms induced by the quest for increased velocity, increased spin, and maximum effort as the primary causes of increased pitcher injury rates, a quest that starts in youth baseball, while players’ bodies are still developing.
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The idea that the pitch clock could be contributing by making pitchers dial up to maximum intensity with less time to recover between pitches has intuitive appeal, but injury rates had already risen before the clock’s introduction last year. As Baseball Prospectus’ Derek Rhoads and Rob Mains noted, the total of 233 pitchers who landed on the injured list last year was about the same as in 2022 (226) and ’21 (243), up from ’19 (192). Likewise for the number of Tommy Johns as measured by year, starting with the day that pitchers and catchers report (as opposed to a calendar year): 28 for last season, compared to 26 for 2022, 31 for ’21, 27 for ’20, and 16 for ’19.
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As the big contracts of so many of the pitchers above remind us, velocity gets pitchers paid, and so discouraging them from throwing at maximum effort with such frequency may be a tough sell, particularly when the next guy is willing to do so, damn the consequences.

[varoadking]

The pitch clock is second in stupidity only to the ghost runner on second...

[Slateman]

Its probably a combination of issues. The biggest one is the belo and spin bump that is being pushed, particularly on younger players. Then the lack of rest and auxiliary sports. The inconsistency in grip of the balls. And finally, to some extent, the pitch clock.

Ultimately, a lot of this could be mitigated with the NPB tacky baseball and a concerted effort in amateur baseball to teach pitching rather than velo.

[imref]

From what i've read, elbow injuries were increasing before the pitch clock, and haven't been increasing any faster rate since the implementation of the pitch clock in the minors 3 years ago and in the majors over the last two years.

[Natsinpwc]

From what i've read, elbow injuries were increasing before the pitch clock, and haven't been increasing any faster rate since the implementation of the pitch clock in the minors 3 years ago and in the majors over the last two years.

The Union is arguing that speeding up the clock this year is a factor.  But admitted to it will take five years to figure the effects. 

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Senzel assigned to Harrisburg for a rehab assignment.

[imref]

The Union is arguing that speeding up the clock this year is a factor.  But admitted to it will take five years to figure the effects. 

fwiw, we had a thread on the forum that i started in 2014 on the "tommy john epidemic" in baseball:

https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=31037.0

[imref]

Zuck reports that Gray's MRI came back clean - muscular issue, no ligament damage.