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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #150: October 20, 2014, 06:09:00 PM »
RIP Ox Baker, the King of the Heart Punch.

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I'd immediately surrender to his beard.

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« Reply #151: October 27, 2014, 05:47:10 PM »
via f4wonline.com:

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Ric Flair and Dennis Rodman are taping a Fitness DVD tomorrow in Manhattan Beach, CA.

That really ought to be on PPV.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #152: November 24, 2014, 12:58:09 AM »
Watch the main event of Survivor Series.

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« Reply #154: November 24, 2014, 02:10:14 PM »
AXS TV (the former HDNet) has signed a deal to air New Japan Pro Wrestling in the U.S. starting in January.  NJPW is as popular in Japan as the WWE was in the attitude era. 

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #155: November 26, 2014, 11:11:12 PM »
Sting? Seriously? Damn, how desperate are they getting? Can they do nothing new? I'm not even a wrestling fan, but this is just dumb.

"Look at us! We've brought back the desiccated corpse of Sting! LOVE US LIKE IT'S 1994!"

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« Reply #156: November 26, 2014, 11:15:01 PM »
Sting? Seriously? Damn, how desperate are they getting? Can they do nothing new? I'm not even a wrestling fan, but this is just dumb.

"Look at us! We've brought back the desiccated corpse of Sting! LOVE US LIKE IT'S 1994!"

monday's show was one of the worst ones in quite a while. except for an injured daniel brian, they just can't push anyone other than Cena as a legitimate star. 

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #157: November 26, 2014, 11:16:47 PM »
monday's show was one of the worst ones in quite a while. except for an injured daniel brian, they just can't push anyone other than Cena as a legitimate star. 
If Cena gets injured for a substantial length of time, they're freaked.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #158: December 01, 2014, 08:26:05 PM »
"Can someone check my staph infection" sign featured prominently on raw tonight. 

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« Reply #159: December 02, 2014, 01:26:07 PM »
If Cena gets injured for a substantial length of time, they're freaked.

It's funny how posts like this where "If (wrestler X) is out for a substantial length of time, they're freaked" have appeared over the years, yet here they still are....

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« Reply #160: December 02, 2014, 02:14:13 PM »
It's funny how posts like this where "If (wrestler X) is out for a substantial length of time, they're freaked" have appeared over the years, yet here they still are....

with ratings that are about half what they were at peak, a stock price down about 50% in the last year, touring business that's off, a network that is looking like a massive money loser that also has killed their PPV business, and a wave of negative publicity coming from one of their top stars accusing them of ignoring injuries.  After the last earnings report there were calls from institutional investors for the McMahons to sell the company, and talk of shareholder lawsuits.

Things aren't pretty in WWE-land right now.  They did build a new star in Daniel Bryan but his injury really hurt.  The rest of the guys they elevate seem to get torn right back down.  Rollins should be a huge mainstream star but they've got him dressed like a fool.  Ambrose, Cesaro, and Wyatt were on fire but got pushed out of the spotlight  So week after week the audience is left with guys that are largely not over.  They are banking on Reigns being a big star but he's still pretty green and not much of a talker.  Their champion hasn't been on TV in months, and may not sign a new deal at the end of the year.

IMHO the biggest mistake is to continue to push the product as a live-action Saturday morning cartoon rather than as a serious athletic event that can lure some of the MMA fans back into the fold and maybe even attract back some of the older fans who grew up on the attitude era.  That doesn't mean adult humor/content, but it means pushing a more serious product that's focused on the contests between the guys and less on "the authority."  ROH is following that approach with some success though with minimal TV.  TNA can't decide what it wants to do, but its best years and PPVs came when they were pushing stiff, athletic contests.  New Japan is doing monster business with a very realistic style.  If you haven't seen the new Lucha Underground series check it out, the matches have been really really good and the production style is much different from WWE.

In WWE land the hottest act is a guy who is supposed to be another guy's stunt-double and who thus mimics everything he does in the ring, even taking bumps outside.  The shows are just embarrassing to watch.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #161: December 02, 2014, 08:57:22 PM »
I love Lucha Underground but I hate the matches. Say what you will about WWE but in-ring quality it's never been better.

Combine Lucha Underground story telling and movie style backstage segments with the WWE roster and I'd be happy.

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« Reply #162: December 03, 2014, 04:40:04 PM »
Anyone have a reaction to the stuff CM Punk said?  Most of the injuries sound pretty standard (which is crazy, but that's how wrestling is), but the staph infection thing is pretty damning.

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« Reply #163: December 03, 2014, 05:14:17 PM »
Anyone have a reaction to the stuff CM Punk said?  Most of the injuries sound pretty standard (which is crazy, but that's how wrestling is), but the staph infection thing is pretty damning.

i haven't listened to the podcast yet, i've just read some of the recap.  It sounds like a Bret Hart deal, lots of bad blood on both sides that came to a head.  His vision of how they should have run the promotion didn't fit with McMahon's, and so he took his ball and went home.  Since it's wrestling, and unlike Savage, there aren't any reports of him sleeping with Steph, he'll probably be back in the fold at some point in the future.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #164: December 03, 2014, 05:15:06 PM »
I love Lucha Underground but I hate the matches. Say what you will about WWE but in-ring quality it's never been better.

Combine Lucha Underground story telling and movie style backstage segments with the WWE roster and I'd be happy.

can you get LU in English?  I only get the Spanish version on FiOS. 

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #165: December 03, 2014, 09:57:50 PM »
From f4w:  Monday's raw rating:

8 p.m. 4.23 million viewers

9 p.m. 3.95 million viewers

10 p.m. 3.47 million viewers




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« Reply #166: December 03, 2014, 10:33:26 PM »
can you get LU in English?  I only get the Spanish version on FiOS. 

Yes Matt Striker and Vampiro are the commentators. The show is actually an American show in English. It is redubbed in Spanish and backstage scenes are also re-shot in both languages.

You're getting what I get on directv. The Univision portion of the show. It's actually on the El Rey Network which is an all English network... it's just not in a lot of homes. They put a ton of stuff on YouTube if you want to see the 'real' version of the show.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #167: December 03, 2014, 10:50:20 PM »
Yes Matt Striker and Vampiro are the commentators. The show is actually an American show in English. It is redubbed in Spanish and backstage scenes are also re-shot in both languages.

You're getting what I get on directv. The Univision portion of the show. It's actually on the El Rey Network which is an all English network... it's just not in a lot of homes. They put a ton of stuff on YouTube if you want to see the 'real' version of the show.

thanks!

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #168: December 04, 2014, 01:32:07 AM »
thanks!

Haha... it helps when you can finally understand what everyone is saying!

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #169: December 04, 2014, 09:00:08 AM »
Haha... it helps when you can finally understand what everyone is saying!

yeah, my spanish is limited to basic greetings, "una cervesa por favor" and "donde etas el bano" :-)   

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #170: December 05, 2014, 02:51:40 PM »
Apparently, Bray Wyatt was on 106.7 The Fan with Chad Dukes today. 

Anyone catch it?

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #172: December 06, 2014, 11:43:51 PM »
CM Punk just joined UFC. Ha.

I don't know how much of a tough guy he is... so it should be interesting.

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #173: December 08, 2014, 09:04:14 AM »
CM Punk just joined UFC. Ha.

I don't know how much of a tough guy he is... so it should be interesting.

CM Punk is going to crash and burn.    :(

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Re: Pro Wrestling Nostalgia Thread (2014)
« Reply #174: December 11, 2014, 11:21:38 PM »
Mick Foley on "The Daily Show".