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« Reply #75: November 15, 2023, 05:40:10 PM »
Eh, his peripherals always indicated he was overachieving, likely due in large part to Cleveland's emphasis on defense. Whoever gets him needs to have a pitcher friendly park with good defense.

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« Reply #76: November 15, 2023, 08:23:48 PM »
I suppose it's possible the Guardians think the shoulder problems will be an ongoing issue.

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« Reply #77: November 16, 2023, 07:18:38 AM »
I suppose it's possible the Guardians think the shoulder problems will be an ongoing issue.
That and a 7 million price tag. Cleveland probably thinks they can replace him with whats in their system

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« Reply #78: November 16, 2023, 09:05:32 AM »
That and a 7 million price tag. Cleveland probably thinks they can replace him with whats in their system
they are a tight money team in a tight money division so they don't have to spend on pitching so long as their system keeps cranking out talent.

That's why I don't read much into their keeping Quantrill. He could be perfectly healthy and they still would be looking for money to save. Even if he's out next year, there's another year of control. Only question in my book is, "is he more deserving of a roster spot than Roddery Munoz or Amos Willingham?" if the answer is yes, then you make a claim.

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« Reply #79: November 17, 2023, 12:02:35 AM »
Wow

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CHICAGO – The Chicago White Sox have acquired right-handed pitcher Michael Soroka, left-hander Jared Shuster, infielders Nicky Lopez and Braden Shewmake and right-hander Riley Gowens from the Atlanta Braves in exchange for left-hander Aaron Bummer. Soroka, Shuster and Shewmake all were former first-round picks of the Braves.

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« Reply #80: November 17, 2023, 08:43:15 AM »
His ERA was higher than Corbin. I guess they figure they can fix him.

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« Reply #81: November 17, 2023, 09:03:33 AM »
His ERA was higher than Corbin. I guess they figure they can fix him.
groundball machine with a high K rate who was terrific until last year. BB rate blew up. Not sure why, wasn't a problem before. defense independent pitching stats and statcast didn't even think last year was bad. But he's just a reliever. That's a lot of washouts that Chicago is buying low on.

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« Reply #82: November 17, 2023, 04:59:36 PM »
a bummer article.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/in-bummer-move-braves-land-lefty-reliever-for-pile-of-ex-prospects/

tl;dr - Bummer fills a role for the Braves in middle innings and being capable of getting grounders when a starter has to leave with runners on. Chicago gets a few guys who will be on the active roster and get regular play for a rebuilding club. One or two might even stick if they get good in a few years.

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« Reply #83: November 18, 2023, 12:02:56 AM »
Hector Gomez is reporting the dodgers are going after “both” Ohtani and Trout.

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« Reply #84: November 18, 2023, 11:04:02 AM »
Hector Gomez is reporting the dodgers are going after “both” Ohtani and Trout.
trout wouldn't be one of the top 3 players on the LAD if they signed Ohtani and dealt for him.

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« Reply #85: November 18, 2023, 12:33:23 PM »
Also, this doesnt solve the Dodgers' biggest issue: Starting pitching

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« Reply #86: November 18, 2023, 08:15:38 PM »
The Yankees really need to sign Ohtani

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« Reply #87: November 19, 2023, 12:07:49 PM »
Nola stays in Philly. 7/$172 million.

4.46 era last year.

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« Reply #88: November 20, 2023, 10:00:57 AM »
So the Phillies go for the longer deal with lower than expected AAV.  Nola is durable.  He had a problem adjusting to the pitch clock last year. Long term future be damned.

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« Reply #89: November 20, 2023, 10:24:18 AM »
So the Phillies go for the longer deal with lower than expected AAV.  Nola is durable.  He had a problem adjusting to the pitch clock last year. Long term future be damned.
There were a few reports that he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Philly.

His ERAs the last 3 years have been 4.63 (21), 3.25 (22), and 4.46 (23), he only pitched more than 200 innings in 2022. It just shows you how coveted pitching is right now.


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« Reply #90: November 20, 2023, 12:25:32 PM »
There were a few reports that he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Philly.

His ERAs the last 3 years have been 4.63 (21), 3.25 (22), and 4.46 (23), he only pitched more than 200 innings in 2022. It just shows you how coveted pitching is right now.
Hardly anyone pitches 200 innings now. Only 5 in 2023. 

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« Reply #91: November 20, 2023, 02:03:38 PM »
There were a few reports that he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Philly.

His ERAs the last 3 years have been 4.63 (21), 3.25 (22), and 4.46 (23), he only pitched more than 200 innings in 2022. It just shows you how coveted pitching is right now.

They say the reason Nolan Ryan was able to pitch so affectively for so long is because he worked out to the point he was in great shape. Nola has pitched either 200 innings or near 200 innings for 6 of the last 7 years missing only the shortened 2020 season. Maybe he's been able to do this by keeping in great shape. Mike Tyson once said it's harder to get up in the morning to work out when you're getting up in silk pajamas. I wonder if Nola will continue to pitch the amount of innings he has now that he sleeps in silk pajamas.

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« Reply #92: November 20, 2023, 02:10:50 PM »
Lance Lynn back to St. Louis, one year at $11 million plus incentives, team option for a 2nd year or a $1 million buyout.

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« Reply #93: November 20, 2023, 05:06:34 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/20/yoshinobu-yamamoto-mlb-free-agent/

yamamoto posted. HE promises to dominate for 6 months, but after that, the might of America's production of players will catch up.

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« Reply #94: November 20, 2023, 06:24:34 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/20/yoshinobu-yamamoto-mlb-free-agent/

yamamoto posted. HE promises to dominate for 6 months, but after that, the might of America's production of players will catch up.

Is that a direct quote?

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« Reply #95: November 20, 2023, 06:34:34 PM »
Is that a direct quote?
nah. just a paraphrase of his great great uncle Isoroku

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« Reply #96: November 20, 2023, 07:26:34 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/20/yoshinobu-yamamoto-mlb-free-agent/

yamamoto posted. HE promises to dominate for 6 months, but after that, the might of America's production of players will catch up.

A very late entry for post of the year.

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« Reply #97: November 20, 2023, 10:09:22 PM »
Welp, we get to see Reynaldo Lopez again.

Signed with the Braves. 3 years, 30 million

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« Reply #98: November 21, 2023, 12:51:19 AM »
 :lol:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/20/yoshinobu-yamamoto-mlb-free-agent/

yamamoto posted. HE promises to dominate for 6 months, but after that, the might of America's production of players will catch up.

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« Reply #99: November 22, 2023, 03:55:37 PM »
Eugenio Suarez dealt to AZ for Carlos Vargas (RHP) and Seby Zavala (C). AZ takes on $13 million guaranteed ($11 million for 2024, $15 million option for 2025 with a $2 million buy out). Vargas throws hard, Zavala is a backup with pop and D. This may put SEattle into the market for a 3rd baseman, so it complicates things a bit for the Nats.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/mariners-trade-eugenio-suarez-dbacks.html