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Offline WhiteWhale

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #175: July 31, 2013, 02:36:19 PM »
going topside, if we like it or not.
The hunt is over. This team does not have the lead in their collective pencils to take 7 or 8 from the braves.


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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #176: July 31, 2013, 02:37:29 PM »
this thread is stupid. 

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #177: July 31, 2013, 02:40:04 PM »
But more stupid than any other thread ?

this thread is stupid. 

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #178: July 31, 2013, 02:54:35 PM »
Yadi is going to the DL, the cards are collapsing. We should be in contention for the WC if the players can get their heads out of their asses.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #179: July 31, 2013, 02:56:48 PM »
Are you still feeling this after today? :(

Yadi is going to the DL, the cards are collapsing. We should be in contention for the WC if the players can get their heads out of their asses.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #180: July 31, 2013, 03:00:55 PM »
Are you still feeling this after today? :(


I said should

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #181: July 31, 2013, 04:31:28 PM »
⅔ of this season is in the books.

⅓ of the season is left.

10.5 games behind the Braves. 7 games behind the Reds for the second Wild Card.

Realistically, how many of the 54 remaining games can the Nationals afford to lose? 15?

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #182: July 31, 2013, 04:34:43 PM »
Yadi is going to the DL, the cards are collapsing. We should be in contention for the WC if the players can get their heads out of their asses.
glad you said "if" not "when," although "if" here probably means the same as in "if pigs had wings."

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #183: July 31, 2013, 11:41:34 PM »
Cardinals lose again, Arizona and the Reds win,  Braves win.

11 back of the division, 7.5 back of the wild card.

Offline MorseMythology

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #184: August 01, 2013, 12:37:22 AM »
Drown yourself if you're harboring postseason hopes.

Offline aspenbubba

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #185: August 01, 2013, 06:20:04 AM »
Drown yourself if you're harboring postseason hopes.

Almost in the realm of MDS

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #186: August 01, 2013, 08:04:16 AM »
going topside, if we like it or not.
The hunt is over. This team does not have the lead in their collective pencils to take 7 or 8 from the braves.



An emergency blow gets you to the surface...we need the clip when the Konovalov gets hit by its own torpedo, that's more like this season!

Offline imref

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #187: August 01, 2013, 10:08:57 PM »
Braves about to win, so we'll be 11.5 back.  No change in WC as Cincy is off though STL is pounding Pittsburgh.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #188: August 01, 2013, 10:43:32 PM »
It's over. No playoffs for us.

Offline granato

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #189: August 01, 2013, 10:48:07 PM »
Good god. Maybe we need to stop using mental gymnastics (in my time as a lurker here I've seen some very impressive ones) to marginalize the Braves'. Accepting that they are actually a very, very good team this year would make this season more tolerable if we were where we should be and seriously contending for the WC.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #190: August 01, 2013, 11:20:57 PM »
Washington let key pieces walk and signed players that eventually led to locker room rifts.

Completely agree, especially this part. You don't mess with a 100 win team as much as they did. I have no doubts we would be right there racing the Braves, or at the very least very much in the WC picture if that team was back this year. The whole dynamic of the team could not be more different, like literally, it is night and day.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #191: August 01, 2013, 11:55:20 PM »
The thing Wren understood that Rizzo didn't is you don't blow the team up after a collapse. Yeah 2011 was rough, but they stayed quiet and were right back in the fray in 2012, and simply added on to what they had in 2013. Another example is the Red Sox. They blew their team up after the collapse and were embarrassing the next season, much like the Nationals have been. Washington let key pieces walk and signed players that eventually led to locker room rifts.

Completely agree, especially this part. You don't mess with a 100 win team as much as they did. I have no doubts we would be right there racing the Braves, or at the very least very much in the WC picture if that team was back this year. The whole dynamic of the team could not be more different, like literally, it is night and day.

Uhh, the Braves from 2011 to 2012 to 2013 have all had personnel changes.  The only two starting pitchers the Braves got 30+ starts out of were Tim Hudson and.... Derek Lowe.  Beachy, Hanson, Jurrjens and Minor all had 25 or less and the spot starts were picked up by Teheran and Delgado.  In 2011 they still started Nate McLouth in CF, and when that blew up they used Schafer who then got traded for Bourn.  Eric Hinske and "stone hands" Brooks Conrad came off the bench with occassional help from Francisco.  The 2012 round robin at SS had Pastornicky, Janish and then finally Simmons.  They carried over the rest of their offense but the rotation now added Medlen, a TJ rehab suspect who last pitched out of the pen in 2010, Ben Sheets for a while and Paul Maholm.

Adding on to 2012 into 2013?  They; traded Prado for J.Upton, lost Chipper Jones to retirement and replaced him with Chris Johnson, replaced Bourn in CF with B.J. Upton, let amazing backup catcher David Ross go and replaced him with Gerald Laird, promoted a "never heard of" that came out of thin air in Evan Gattis and also revamped the rest of the bench with guys like Ramiro Pena and bringing back Schafer.

They are a very good team and are finally hitting their stride, but don't say that Wren understood something Rizzo didn't.  Hell Rizzo didn't "screw" with a 98 win team as much as you seem to think.  Soriano was signed to make a decent back end of the bullpen better.  Gorzelanny, Mike Gonzalez and Burnett?  Gorzy has been good, Gonzalez has a 3.86 ERA in relief and Burnett appeared in 13 games and is injured for the rest of the season.  Zach Duke and HRod didn't fill the voids left by those guys, but Krol and Abad filled them pretty well so far.  Soriano took the other "spot" out there.  The often injured Morse was traded to get Ian Krol and A.J. Cole, a potential top of the rotation starter, back into the system.  Morse hasn't been able to stay healthy for the Mariners this year, although compared to LaRoche he looks like a good option.

This team wasn't "blown up" like the Red Sox, they are horribly under-performing.  The back room quarrels, well, that happens when you suck.  People get angry, trying to put the blame on someone in particular, but it's a group effort.

Offline ElOsoBlanco

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #192: August 02, 2013, 12:15:46 AM »
I dunno what the deal is with the Nationals. I do know that a lot of players still have a positive WAR. Which is a good sign. But it just seems like one of those rare things where everyone slumps at once. It can probably get into everyone's head once it starts to get really bad. The pressure mounts, you feel like you have to do more because everything is going wrong, and things are starting to get out of control.

The pitching has still been top 10 like they were last year. Strasburg is having a slight down year, but the funny thing is it's still a dominant year compared to your average pitcher. The pitching has had its blow up moments too. Every team does, of course. But with the offense being so down compared to last season, the pitchers have probably felt the pressure too, needing to do more to get the win. Which can lead to more mistakes, mental stress, and so on.

The Braves have been close to falling into a bad luck hole like that. It's gotten very close. And both teams have suffered from a lot of injuries, Harper is still being bothered by that knee. It's been a whole lot of bad news and bad luck for the Nationals. But they're a young team, like the Braves. If they don't make a run this year, it won't be because the team is bad. They're not. Maybe change a few things. LaRoche doesn't seem to have 'it' anymore. And I heard about him losing like 20 pounds in a month? That's crazy.

Anyway, yeah. This has been a pretty ugly year for a lot of teams, even winning ones, with injuries and things. And all the weather problems we were going through. Doubleheaders left and right for a lot of teams. Just a pretty strange season.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #193: August 02, 2013, 12:25:22 AM »
^^^Not that ElOsoBlanco didn't have a good post or isn't cool, but I prefer the trash-talking, trollish breed of Barves fans. They might be incessant but it's more fun and makes the rivalry that much better. We should totally not scare those ones off.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #194: August 02, 2013, 01:03:18 AM »
Its the Nats penalty for shutting down Strasburg last year.

You can't really believe that gibberish right?  You believe there is a penalty fairy that casts spells upon teams who do something the penalty fairy doesn't believe in?  What if they didn't shut Stras down and he throws out his arm in mid-September?   Come on that's a clown comment bro. 

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #195: August 02, 2013, 02:57:39 AM »
If this Braves crap isn't gone by morning (or whenever a mod gets a chance to look), or at least moved to Out of Town, then this site might as well change to ABFF.net.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #196: August 02, 2013, 09:39:05 AM »
If you truly believe in "jinxes and stuff" there's a couple of psychic and bigfoot forums you should check out. Maybe they'll keep you from posting here.

Your boys are probably wearing a WS ring if they don't shut him down.  And yes, I do believe in jinxes and stuff when it comes to sports.  There was an old tale in Atl for years that the Braves franchise was cursed because the city built Fulton County on an old Indian burial ground.  Remember SI dubbing it Loserville USA?  Was it the Red Sox and the black cat? The Cubs and the goat?

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #197: August 02, 2013, 09:47:45 AM »
Your boys are probably wearing a WS ring if they don't shut him down.  And yes, I do believe in jinxes and stuff when it comes to sports.  There was an old tale in Atl for years that the Braves franchise was cursed because the city built Fulton County on an old Indian burial ground.  Remember SI dubbing it Loserville USA?  Was it the Red Sox and the black cat? The Cubs and the goat?

What a dimwit.

I knew it was just a matter of time before the Barves trolls came out. Predictable. And classless.

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #198: August 02, 2013, 09:49:26 AM »
This next week is going to feature some $hitastic trolling  :roll: 

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Re: The Hunt for a Red October
« Reply #199: August 02, 2013, 09:52:26 AM »
This next week is going to feature some $hitastic trolling  :roll: 

Stupid people have one thing in common: They are all very predictable.