Author Topic: Nationals @ Twins, Game 2 (Read 17546 times)

spidernat · « **Reply #25:** June 18, 2008, 08:16:19 PM »

I think sportsfan has become inordinately obsessed with hitters taking pitches for the sake of having good at bats.

tomterp · « **Reply #26:** June 18, 2008, 08:16:37 PM »

Which Bergmann will we see - Jason Ace, or Beach Boy?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #27:** June 18, 2008, 08:16:53 PM »

Our ABs, believe it or not, worsen with runners on base. It's like we just take a hack at the first pitch even close to a strike rather than working the count and getting a good pitch to hit.

spidernat · « **Reply #28:** June 18, 2008, 08:17:20 PM »

We're going to need the good Bergmann in order to hope for an extra innings tie

ronnynat · « **Reply #29:** June 18, 2008, 08:17:30 PM »

We really need to keep Gomez off the bases.

ronnynat · « **Reply #30:** June 18, 2008, 08:18:04 PM »

Oh great.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #31:** June 18, 2008, 08:18:05 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2008, 08:16:19 PM

I think sportsfan has become inordinately obsessed with hitters taking pitches for the sake of having good at bats.

The more pitches you see the better chance you have of getting a hit or drawing a walk.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #32:** June 18, 2008, 08:18:44 PM »

freak. Boone is terrible. Why won't Manny let Casto play 3B?

spidernat · « **Reply #33:** June 18, 2008, 08:19:39 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 08:18:05 PM

The more pitches you see the better chance you have of getting a hit or drawing a walk.

I'm more concerned with batters swinging at pitches they are comfortable with or pitches they feel they can drive. Sometimes, that pitch comes early in the count.

spidernat · « **Reply #34:** June 18, 2008, 08:20:33 PM »

Boone's defense is going to cost us.

ronnynat · « **Reply #35:** June 18, 2008, 08:21:36 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2008, 08:19:39 PM

I'm more concerned with batters swinging at pitches they are comfortable with or pitches they feel they can drive. Sometimes, that pitch comes early in the count.

QFT. There are a few situations where you wouldn't want them to swing at the first couple of pitches, but that's usually later in the game.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #36:** June 18, 2008, 08:21:57 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2008, 08:19:39 PM

I'm more concerned with batters swinging at pitches they are comfortable with or pitches they feel they can drive. Sometimes, that pitch comes early in the count.

Well, the vast majority of the time we swing at a pitch early in the count it results in an easy out. It would be something if they were doing something swinging early in the count but they aren't. Who's to say that the first or second pitch will be the most hittable pitch of the entire AB? The more pitches you see the better chance you'll find the pitch you are looking for.

spidernat · « **Reply #37:** June 18, 2008, 08:23:50 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 08:21:57 PM

Well, the vast majority of the time we swing at a pitch early in the count it results in an easy out. It would be something if they were doing something swinging early in the count but they aren't. Who's to say that the first or second pitch will be the most hittable pitch of the entire AB? The more pitches you see the better chance you'll find the pitch you are looking for.

LOL This is more a problem of talent than getting better pitches to hit.

spidernat · « **Reply #38:** June 18, 2008, 08:24:12 PM »

I hate Mauer.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #39:** June 18, 2008, 08:24:18 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 08:18:44 PM

****. Boone is terrible. Why won't Manny let Casto play 3B?

Keep whining and they'll shift LoDuca to 3rd

ronnynat · « **Reply #40:** June 18, 2008, 08:24:39 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 08:21:57 PM

The more pitches you see the better chance you'll find the pitch you are looking for.

So you'd rather our guys have an 0-2 or 1-2 count than swing at the first or second pitch?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #41:** June 18, 2008, 08:24:45 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2008, 08:23:50 PM

LOL This is more a problem of talent than getting better pitches to hit.

Well, those that have more talent usually work the count and thus get better pitches to hit. See: Joe Mauer.

eagleskins · « **Reply #42:** June 18, 2008, 08:25:27 PM »

Both Mauer and Morneau are worlds better than anything we can throw out there.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #43:** June 18, 2008, 08:25:31 PM »

That's pretty pathetic. Has Mauer down 0-2 and can't put him away.

ronnynat · « **Reply #44:** June 18, 2008, 08:25:38 PM »

I liked that pitch, but Mauer has a great eye.

spidernat · « **Reply #45:** June 18, 2008, 08:26:20 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 18, 2008, 08:24:45 PM

Well, those that have more talent usually work the count and thus get better pitches to hit. See: Joe Mauer.

Actually the difference between Mauer and our hitters is that he was able to foul enough of the pitches to stay alive. Our hitters put those pitches in play for easy unproductive outs.

spidernat · « **Reply #46:** June 18, 2008, 08:26:47 PM »

Quote from: eagleskins on June 18, 2008, 08:25:27 PM

Both Mauer and Morneau are worlds better than anything we can throw out there.

True.

spidernat · « **Reply #47:** June 18, 2008, 08:27:31 PM »

Boone's play did cost us.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #48:** June 18, 2008, 08:27:44 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on June 18, 2008, 08:26:20 PM

Actually the difference between Mauer and our hitters is that he was able to foul enough of the pitches to stay alive. Our hitters put those pitches in play for easy unproductive outs.

Yeah, we aren't very good at fouling off pitches and extending ABs. Mauer has a really good batting eye too.

1-0. Might as well be 5-0.

ronnynat · « **Reply #49:** June 18, 2008, 08:27:54 PM »

Gomez really needs to be kept off the bases for the rest of the game.