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Who would you rather have on your roster for the next 2 years?  John Lannan or Tommy Milone?  

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Offline NatsTheFats

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Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Topic Start: September 10, 2012, 02:12:54 AM »
Who would you rather have on your roster for the next 2 years?

John Lannan or Tommy Milone?

2 Year projection only..
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Offline Kevrock

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #1: September 10, 2012, 05:44:13 AM »
Gio.
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Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #2: September 10, 2012, 06:24:03 AM »
Ray King.
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Offline welch

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #3: September 10, 2012, 07:18:17 AM »
Lannan and Gio
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Offline comish4lif

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #4: September 10, 2012, 07:23:58 AM »
Quote from: NatsTheFats on September 10, 2012, 02:12:54 AM
Who would you rather have on your roster for the next 2 years?

John Lannan or Tommy Milone?

2 Year projection only..
Not sure I get the point here...

Milone has already been traded. Is the point that we should have traded Lannan to Oakland? Oakland wants young, cheap, cost controlled players. Lannan's $5m salary doesn't fit their needs. So, what's the point of this poll?
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Offline Baseball is Life

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #5: September 10, 2012, 07:51:51 AM »
I'm still not sold on Milone.

This year, Milone is being really helped by his pitcher friendly home park. Look at his road-home splits.
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Offline mimontero88

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #6: September 10, 2012, 08:37:22 AM »
I'll take Lannan.  Consistent major-league performer with a career ERA under 4.00.
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Offline NatsDad14

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #7: September 10, 2012, 09:05:54 AM »
Quote from: Baseball is Life on September 10, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
I'm still not sold on Milone.

This year, Milone is being really helped by his pitcher friendly home park. Look at his road-home splits.

but look at his K-BB ratio. The guy is good
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Offline Ray D

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #8: September 10, 2012, 09:22:51 AM »
Quote from: comish4lif on September 10, 2012, 07:23:58 AM
Not sure I get the point here...


I'm not sure either, but I THINK it may be asking, what if, hypothetically, Oakland would have taken Lannan instead of Milone.  Would we have preferred that.  (Again, completely hypothetical.)   

And my answer would be, absolutely.   For one thing, there is no way Lannan is back next year.  So we lose him anyway.  Milone, we would have control over.
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Offline BigMeech

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #9: September 10, 2012, 09:32:39 AM »
Tommy John.
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Offline LostYudite

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #10: September 10, 2012, 09:42:50 AM »
Quote from: Ray D on September 10, 2012, 09:22:51 AM
I'm not sure either, but I THINK it may be asking, what if, hypothetically, Oakland would have taken Lannan instead of Milone.  Would we have preferred that.  (Again, completely hypothetical.)   

And my answer would be, absolutely.   For one thing, there is no way Lannan is back next year.  So we lose him anyway.  Milone, we would have control over.

Oh, if we're living in the hypothetical world of what Oakland would have taken, I'd have traded them Jason Simontacchi, Nook Logan and Jason Bergmann for Gio.  Milone AND Lannan AND Gio FTW!!11!
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Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #11: September 10, 2012, 10:05:57 AM »
I am continually amazed by the sheer number of posters on this site who think that they are too good for John Lannan.
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Offline Ray D

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« Reply #12: September 10, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »
Quote from: Count Walewski on September 10, 2012, 10:05:57 AM
I am continually amazed by the sheer number of posters on this site who think that they are too good for John Lannan.

I don't even know what that means, but it's a completely moot point.  Lannan will have two or three more (regular season) starts, will not pitch in the postseason, and then he's gone.
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Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #13: September 10, 2012, 11:54:05 AM »
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Offline Clever

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« Reply #14: September 10, 2012, 03:48:11 PM »
Lannanation!  :twisted:
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Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #15: September 10, 2012, 04:25:11 PM »
Quote from: Ray D on September 10, 2012, 10:16:48 AM
I don't even know what that means, but it's a completely moot point.  Lannan will have two or three more (regular season) starts, will not pitch in the postseason, and then he's gone.

I don't dispute this, but so many posters on this site have nothing but hate and vitriol for John Lannan.

There is a difference between saying "John Lannan is the 6th most talented starter on this team, and we don't need him at his price", which is fine, and saying "he sucks I would rather have a corpse"
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Offline Slateman

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #16: September 10, 2012, 04:32:04 PM »
AJ Cole
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Offline welch

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #17: September 10, 2012, 04:51:42 PM »
Quote from: Count Walewski on September 10, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
I don't dispute this, but so many posters on this site have nothing but hate and vitriol for John Lannan.

There is a difference between saying "John Lannan is the 6th most talented starter on this team, and we don't need him at his price", which is fine, and saying "he sucks I would rather have a corpse"

I'm not certain Lannan is gone:

- Detwiler has his good moments and his awful moments. Lannan might be better.

- Jackson has talent, but sometimes he loses it, and we don't know where he will pitch next season

- Which starter above Potomac looks good enough to win a spot in the majors?
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Offline Ray D

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #18: September 10, 2012, 05:35:45 PM »
Quote from: Count Walewski on September 10, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
I don't dispute this, but so many posters on this site have nothing but hate and vitriol for John Lannan.

There is a difference between saying "John Lannan is the 6th most talented starter on this team, and we don't need him at his price", which is fine, and saying "he sucks I would rather have a corpse"

I'm not saying any of these things, and I have no hate for him (though no particular love, either).  I'm saying he won't be here because the bridge has been burned - at both ends.   I think that Lannan and Rizzo dislike each other so much now that they would not be able to talk.
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Offline Bloo

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #19: September 10, 2012, 08:47:30 PM »
Johnny Bravo.
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Offline Hondo

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #20: September 10, 2012, 09:59:14 PM »
Invest the cash and rebuild John Patterson's forearm . We have the technology.
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Offline Vega

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« Reply #21: September 10, 2012, 11:54:52 PM »
Something else interesting about the Gio trade; it directly led to Kurt Suzuki being rendered obsolete in Oakland and shipped here. So it was basically Gio and Kurt for the prospects package.
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Offline NatsDad14

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Re: Johnny L or Tommy M?
« Reply #22: September 11, 2012, 10:20:33 AM »
I'll take Gio G
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