Author Topic: Nationals vs Mariners, Game 1 (Read 27044 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #125:** June 21, 2011, 02:53:43 PM »

Ichiro sucks this year. .660 OPS, 140 points below career norm. Slugging and OBP way down.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #126:** June 21, 2011, 03:00:41 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on June 21, 2011, 02:53:43 PM

Ichiro sucks this year. .660 OPS, 140 points below career norm. Slugging and OBP way down.

Struggling players do well vs. the Nats.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #127:** June 21, 2011, 03:03:27 PM »

Quote from: Evolution33 on June 21, 2011, 03:00:41 PM

Struggling players do well vs. the Nats.

Thankfully, then, he's not struggling lately.

Last 14 - .381/.409/.524/.933
Last 7 - .471/.500/.647/1.147

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #128:** June 21, 2011, 03:10:54 PM »

Quote from: Sharp on June 21, 2011, 02:34:52 PM

I guess we could put Ichiro in CF and add Werth at RF if we really wanted... but the Marinals wouldn't have needed to make that deal in the first place because between their Yankees-lite lineup and their Phillies-lite rotation free agents would be jumping aboard the bandwagon faster than you can say "3D movies."

Post of the thread/month.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #129:** June 21, 2011, 03:25:17 PM »

Need some help from people smarter than me here, but saw this series preview (http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2011/6/21/2232805/series-preview-seattle-mariners-washington-nationals) and saw the Nats pitching ranked at 27th according to tRA.

Looked it up and seemed like an interesting stat, but I checked some other ways of measuring this stuff, and runs allowed has them at 7th, ERA has them at 9th, tERA has them at 13th, and FIP has them at 15th. Some are simplier than others and include defense and stuff, but all the other stats have them around the middle of the pack. Not sure what SIERA says as I was too lazy to go to more than one site to look up stats, but wouldn't the stat that is most widely off from the rest be the one most likely to not be telling the truth?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #130:** June 21, 2011, 03:36:57 PM »

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MarkZuckerman Mark Zuckerman
#Nats fans think they've seen a weak lineup this year? Batting 3rd tonight for #Mariners: Adam Kennedy.

CatsEye · « **Reply #131:** June 21, 2011, 03:50:39 PM »

Quote from: PatsNats28 on June 20, 2011, 07:06:08 PM

I think it's cuz the game is tomorrow.

TylerDC · « **Reply #132:** June 21, 2011, 03:54:58 PM »

Good lineup.

UMDNats · « **Reply #133:** June 21, 2011, 03:56:26 PM »

Quote from: Evolution33 on June 21, 2011, 03:25:17 PM

Need some help from people smarter than me here, but saw this series preview (http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2011/6/21/2232805/series-preview-seattle-mariners-washington-nationals) and saw the Nats pitching ranked at 27th according to tRA.

From the final game preview:

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He has recovered mostly this season, but is a third consecutive soft-tossing sinkerballer in this series so hopefully by this juncture the Mariner hitters will have finally adjusted and might eke out a run or two.

High expectations.

CatsEye · « **Reply #134:** June 21, 2011, 04:00:55 PM »

Quote from: Nathan on June 21, 2011, 01:44:01 PM

Dude, why do you have to do this with EVERYTHING SF posts? I don't understand why you're so infatuated with the guy

Because Lintyfresh is probably one of the few posters, who SF doesn't have on "Ignore", and who he engages with -that's why-and SF does say some controversial/inflammatory things, at times -you must admit.

houston-nat · « **Reply #135:** June 21, 2011, 04:03:09 PM »

Quote from: UMDNats on June 21, 2011, 03:56:26 PM

From the final game preview:

High expectations.

Hey, that was us ten days ago.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #136:** June 21, 2011, 04:05:46 PM »

Quote from: houston-nat on June 21, 2011, 04:03:09 PM

Hey, that was us ten days ago.

Might be us after this series. Aside from Garcia the Nats haven't seen pitching this good since facing the Padres.

CatsEye · « **Reply #137:** June 21, 2011, 04:05:50 PM »

Quote from: The Chief on June 21, 2011, 02:19:15 PM

I expect better from you.

Et tu brute'......

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #138:** June 21, 2011, 04:06:01 PM »

Funny, reading the Lookout Landing preview... the comments still think we have Hanrahan as a closer.

CatsEye · « **Reply #139:** June 21, 2011, 04:11:24 PM »

With Hernandez pitching, and the bats hitting -I am sure we will win the game tonight. No doubt in my mind....

Batter Up !

The Chief · « **Reply #140:** June 21, 2011, 04:17:20 PM »

updated lineups in original post

The Chief · « **Reply #141:** June 21, 2011, 04:24:30 PM »

Werth shaved according to Kilgore and Ladson. Just a soul patch now.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #142:** June 21, 2011, 04:27:24 PM »

Quote from: The Chief on June 21, 2011, 04:24:30 PM

Werth shaved according to Kilgore and Ladson. Just a soul patch now.

@JWerthsBeard doesn't know how to react...

houston-nat · « **Reply #143:** June 21, 2011, 04:36:29 PM »

What was the record for most posts in a GDT before game time?

Sharp · « **Reply #144:** June 21, 2011, 04:38:42 PM »

Quote from: Evolution33 on June 21, 2011, 03:25:17 PM

Need some help from people smarter than me here, but saw this series preview (http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2011/6/21/2232805/series-preview-seattle-mariners-washington-nationals) and saw the Nats pitching ranked at 27th according to tRA.

Looked it up and seemed like an interesting stat, but I checked some other ways of measuring this stuff, and runs allowed has them at 7th, ERA has them at 9th, tERA has them at 13th, and FIP has them at 15th. Some are simplier than others and include defense and stuff, but all the other stats have them around the middle of the pack. Not sure what SIERA says as I was too lazy to go to more than one site to look up stats, but wouldn't the stat that is most widely off from the rest be the one most likely to not be telling the truth?

I would take all tRA numbers with an enormous grain of salt. It treats demonstrably poor predictors of future performance (LD%) as predictive, but doesn't go all the way because it doesn't factor in the effect that a good defense can have on run values for particular batted ball types. That said, trA has the Nats at 19th, not 27th--that's the starting pitching you're looking at, and frankly none of the metrics like our starting pitching that much. It is definitely due for some regression.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #145:** June 21, 2011, 04:47:39 PM »

Whoa - Franklin Gutierrez's OPS+ is 36. He is slugging .253.

Is Olivo injured? He's one of their better hitters and he's not in the lineup and I believe they had an off day yesterday.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #146:** June 21, 2011, 04:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on June 21, 2011, 04:47:39 PM

Is Olivo injured? He's one of their better hitters and he's not in the lineup and I believe they had an off day yesterday.

Nah, Wedgie knows he owes me one for the epic collapse in the 2007 Championship series.

EdStroud · « **Reply #147:** June 21, 2011, 04:55:53 PM »

National League
EAST W L PCT GB
Philadelphia 45 28 .616 --
Atlanta 41 33 .554 4.5
Washington 35 37 .486 9.5
NY Mets 35 37 .486 9.5
Florida 32 41 .438 13.0

tomterp · « **Reply #148:** June 21, 2011, 05:06:27 PM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on June 21, 2011, 02:12:01 PM

The NL East is tougher and the Nats - as we all know - have had the toughest schedule to date.

Our schedule is always going to be the toughest because we don't get 18 games against the Nats.

EdStroud · « **Reply #149:** June 21, 2011, 05:08:47 PM »

Quote from: tomterp on June 21, 2011, 05:06:27 PM

Our schedule is always going to be the toughest because we don't get 18 games against the Nats.

Heck the best the Nats could do against Washington is .500 anyway