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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #200: March 31, 2023, 07:37:37 AM »
Everyone piling on Corbin, but figured we had an off day to spread the love.

0-4 with 3 errors is probably not the Opening Day debut Abrams was looking for

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« Reply #201: March 31, 2023, 11:19:23 AM »
For a position player, I can’t think of a worse Opening Day for any Washington National. Shockingly bad.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #202: March 31, 2023, 11:43:59 AM »
Looked good Tuesday, hopefully he can shake it off

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #203: March 31, 2023, 12:21:08 PM »
He looked like Ian Desmond on defense and Victor Robles at the plate. 

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« Reply #204: March 31, 2023, 02:30:59 PM »
He looked like Ian Desmond on defense and Victor Robles at the plate.

Hahaha

Let's see how he bounces back.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #205: April 04, 2023, 07:19:29 AM »
I see no flashes of hope with this kid.  What exactly are his supposed strengths?  Speed?

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #206: April 04, 2023, 07:42:23 AM »
Freak athleticism and a 60 grade hit tool.

The thing you need to remember is that Abrams is not only young and raw, but also doesnt have a lot of experience. Whereas Turner played college and then 185 minor league games before his call up in 2015, Abrams was drafted out of HS and has only played ~120 games in the minors.

So, basically, he's going to take some time to develop

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #207: April 04, 2023, 09:19:29 AM »
Even last year, as a rushed rookie, his K% was well below MLB average (16.1% vs MLB avg of 22.4%). Wouldn't take a walk, but there's something to work with. I think his D has had some split opinions.  People here think it is a plus, which I guess is coming off Escobar at the end of his useful life and Garcia, but IIRC there's scouts who think he's an up the middle player but aren't sure that's SS, 2B or CF. As Slate points out, I'm not sure the evaluators have seen him enough to see all the potential derailments (like refusing to take pitches enough to build a respectable walk rate).

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« Reply #208: April 04, 2023, 10:25:27 AM »
He's a 22-year-old SS with the tools to play the position.  That's a guy you give time.  Most guys with the offensive and defensive tools to play SS in the majors are in AA at 22 because shortstop is hard.  Nothing I saw on OD was egregious.  He's not Garcia.  He just didn't make the plays that day.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #209: April 04, 2023, 10:27:10 AM »
he ended yesterday with a fantastic at-bat that saw him almost hit an opposite field home run. Hopefully that's something to build off of.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #210: April 04, 2023, 11:11:11 AM »
I buy what Svrluga says.  A measure of success would be progress at the plate over the year and being able to make normal plays at SS.

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« Reply #211: April 04, 2023, 11:52:42 AM »
I buy what Svrluga says.  A measure of success would be progress at the plate over the year and being able to make normal plays at SS.

he was pretty freaking amazing last year so i'm not worried about a slow start.

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« Reply #212: April 04, 2023, 11:56:06 AM »
he was pretty freaking amazing last year so i'm not worried about a slow start.
I like him as a prospect but he was 0.1 bWAR last year and 76 OPS+.  So he’s in the bottom echelon on SSs. But fun to watch and he should get better. At the plate and in the field.

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« Reply #213: April 04, 2023, 11:57:57 AM »
I see no flashes of hope with this kid.  What exactly are his supposed strengths?  Speed?
He’s a very good athlete and seems to have some natural instincts at SS. Not totally overmatched at the plate. After years of guys like Harper and Rendon fans need to temper expectations a bit. Everyone does not arrive ready to be a top player.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #214: April 04, 2023, 01:06:28 PM »
I buy what Svrluga says.  A measure of success would be progress at the plate over the year and being able to make normal plays at SS.
Thats gonna be the measure for this franchise.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #215: April 04, 2023, 10:19:07 PM »
Nice game


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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #217: April 09, 2023, 10:53:34 AM »
Abrams currently leads the team in slugging percentage.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #218: April 09, 2023, 12:01:06 PM »
Abrams currently leads the team in slugging percentage.

and he's showing some patience at the plate

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #219: April 09, 2023, 01:41:39 PM »
He was making some nice contact for outs earlier until they finally started falling in.

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« Reply #220: April 09, 2023, 02:32:59 PM »
and he's showing some patience at the plate
We knew you would be looking at that.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #221: April 14, 2023, 09:50:05 AM »
3 errors on opening day, none since.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #222: April 14, 2023, 10:39:27 AM »
3 errors on opening day, none since.
that one had a feel of cascading negativity. Sort of like the kicker who misses wide right  then misses wide left then gets blocked as he tries to put the last one up perfect.

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« Reply #223: April 14, 2023, 10:48:23 AM »
that one had a feel of cascading negativity. Sort of like the kicker who misses wide right  then misses wide left then gets blocked as he tries to put the last one up perfect.

Yep, and then also kicks off out of bounds to start the half because he can't leave one phase of the game behind.  Glad that hasn't happened with Abrams' hitting either.

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Re: CJ Abrams: Our new man in the middle
« Reply #224: April 14, 2023, 11:00:30 AM »
Just like watching the PGA (the gentleman's NASCAR), you're really watching to see the meltdowns.  The pressure cranks up and by the time it peaks they can't hit a drive in the fairway if their life depended on it.

I just assume that CJ was nervous out there and that was it.  He got his Ian Desmond opening weak errors all in one game.