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Offline Sharp

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #25: July 07, 2011, 02:47:15 PM »
He didn't show up to the Bears and ended up wandering around Florida rapping as Fly Eli before he got jailed again.  I can't be the only one who remembers this story.

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« Reply #26: July 07, 2011, 03:00:46 PM »
i'm always fascinated by the turns these threads take.

Offline imref

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« Reply #27: July 28, 2011, 08:30:50 AM »

Last 7 days:
.409 / 0 HR / 5R / 1RBI / 2SB

Imagine if the 2 guys ahead of him in the lineup were getting on base.

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #28: July 28, 2011, 08:31:52 AM »
He was in jail, not prison.  There's a serious difference between the two.

... and you know that how?    :)

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« Reply #29: July 28, 2011, 04:53:43 PM »
4-5 today, average up to .276

Rest of the team 3-21.

Offline wpa2629

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #30: July 28, 2011, 05:04:51 PM »
He's such a stud

Offline TylerDC

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« Reply #31: July 28, 2011, 05:05:38 PM »
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Offline imref

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« Reply #32: July 28, 2011, 05:05:51 PM »
He's such a stud

i think statistically he's the most irreplaceable player in baseball.

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« Reply #33: July 28, 2011, 05:57:41 PM »
I was at the game last night and today and my seats are right in section 113, right near 3B. I may get tomotoes thrown at me but Zimm just can't seem to put anything on his throws anymore. He seems like he lobs the ball even when he needs to really get it there. I know he is working on a new throwing motion but....

Now I was never in love with the way he threw the ball before but if he never regains his throwing motion I can see 1B in his future. :'(

Offline MarquisDeSade

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« Reply #34: July 28, 2011, 06:02:42 PM »
BIL - a lot of us feel that way about the Z-man.

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #35: July 28, 2011, 06:03:36 PM »
i think statistically he's the most irreplaceable player in baseball.
How do you figure?

Offline mitlen

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« Reply #36: July 28, 2011, 06:05:49 PM »
BIL - a lot of us feel that way about the Z-man.

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #37: July 28, 2011, 07:36:22 PM »
BIL - a lot of us feel that way about the Z-man.
Really? I never heard anyone mention the 1B possiblity in the future. That might explain the whole Rendon pick.

Offline Smithian

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« Reply #38: July 28, 2011, 07:46:48 PM »
I've considered moving Zim to first in the future if Espinosa/Lombardozzi tear if up in the middle and Rendon eventually looks like a big time player. Zimmerman would take an awesome glove to 1B and good offense.

That would be an awesome infield. Lots of offense, amazing defense.

Offline mitlen

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« Reply #39: July 28, 2011, 07:51:53 PM »
I've considered moving Zim to first in the future if Espinosa/Lombardozzi tear if up in the middle and Rendon eventually looks like a big time player. Zimmerman would take an awesome glove to 1B and good offense.

That would be an awesome infield. Lots of offense, amazing defense.

Zim at first never crossed my mind but it sure is intriguing given the other moves mentioned.   Where does Morse go?

Offline Smithian

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« Reply #40: July 28, 2011, 07:57:53 PM »
If Morse still is around, I'm thinking LF. It would be an AWESOME problem go have.

Offline PatsNats28

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« Reply #41: July 28, 2011, 08:17:52 PM »
I think what's most likely is that Rendon plays 2B and Lombo is moved... he's not a cornerstone.

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« Reply #42: July 28, 2011, 08:29:17 PM »
Doubt Lombo gets moved. At the least he is a great sub who can play multiple positions.

Offline Kevrock

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #43: July 28, 2011, 09:48:36 PM »
Zim is compensating for an injury. His throwing motion will be back next year. He was amazing with the glove last year. A bit early to talk about a move to first base.

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #44: July 28, 2011, 10:04:08 PM »
Zim is compensating for an injury. His throwing motion will be back next year. He was amazing with the glove last year. A bit early to talk about a move to first base.
He's always been amazing with the glove. But he has a tendency to make bad throws. Part of it is that he gets to balls most can't. But part of it is that side arm, falling throw he does.

Offline imref

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« Reply #45: July 28, 2011, 10:42:37 PM »
How do you figure?

Here is the justification:
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=6362368

MLB's most irreplaceable players

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1. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B, Washington Nationals: There's been no more unfortunate injury in baseball this season than Zimmerman's abdominal strain. The best third baseman in the game put up an OPS+ of 142 to go with superb defense in 2010. He was off to a fast start in 2011, and the hope is he'll return in a couple of weeks.

What exacerbates Zimmerman's absence is backup Alex Cora. There's no decent way to say this: Cora doesn't belong on a major league roster anymore. He is a bright, engaging guy, whose OPS+ last year was 49, and he's now 35 years old. His defense, once a strength, has deteriorated badly, and playing at third base, Cora is actually out of position.
(Estimated full-season dropoff: 8.5 wins)

Offline Kevrock

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #46: July 28, 2011, 10:42:58 PM »
Yeah, he's had problems in the past, for sure. I thought his arm was better last year, but it looks like he had the same amount of errors in 2010 as he did in 2009. Not sure if they were throwing errors or glove errors. Still, he's an elite defender.

Anyway, the posts preceding mine seemed directed at his current throwing motion, and it's been said that he made adjustments because of his injury. That's all I was trying to point out.

Offline Hondo

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #47: July 29, 2011, 12:26:42 AM »
So if Dukes is in prison, it will likely only cost us a few packs of cigs to get him.....make that trade rizzo!

Offline Ray D

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Re: He's baaack......
« Reply #48: July 29, 2011, 11:09:38 AM »
When he returned from his injury, he was throwing overhand.  That had nothing to do with the injury, it was just that the staff finally was able to convince him that that was the correct way to throw. And he was throwing very well, for about a week.  But then he reverted back to sidearm. One explanation I heard was that he really wasn't fully recovered, hadn't completely regained his arm strength, and had to compensate by varying his throwing motion.
So all this talk about moving him to first base is silly. Let the guy recover completely and get back to throwing overhand. He'll be fine.  He is the best thirdbaseman in the game and it would be a huge waste to play him at first. (What are you going to do with Morse, then, if Zimmerman goes to first?)

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« Reply #49: August 16, 2011, 09:49:53 PM »
that HR tonight was unfreaking believable.  And he even had time to stare back at the dugout.

Has anyone actually put one out onto the walk-way behind the LF seats?