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Re: Caps and Wiz moving to Potomac Yards?
« Reply #400: March 27, 2024, 05:12:25 PM »

Here’s a neat story apparently posted in the sweet spot between the no from Alexandria and the yes from DC/Leonsis:

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2024/03/27/ted-leonsis-capitals-wizards-capital-one-arena

“Ted Leonsis is suddenly saying awfully nice things about Capital One Arena.

“Why it matters: Maybe there's a vibe shift happening, as the Post's Dan Steinberg wondered. The comments come as Virginia's efforts to bring the Capitals and Wizards to Alexandria stall, and after D.C.'s attorney general warned the teams can't contractually leave downtown until 2047.

“State of play: Leonsis on Wednesday tweeted "incredible info" that Monday's Zach Bryan concert was the highest attended concert in the history of Capital One Arena.

“It was the arena's "highest single night for merchandise sales."
Not just that: "Even more amazing data," he tweeted, shows that since March 1, "over 325,000 fans have come through our doors to enjoy @Capitals and @WashWizards games, concerts, Georgetown basketball, the ACC tournament and other events." (Again, all things he wanted to move across the Potomac.)

“"Each of these events brings the community together, supports thousands of jobs, and generates significant tax revenue for the city," he tweeted. Note: "the city"!

“To top it off: 90% of Caps fans renewed season tix, and he expects 85-90% of Wiz fans to follow. "We will never take for granted your loyalty to the teams," Leonsis says.”

It would’ve been nice if they also said he was selling the teams, but I’ll take what I can get.

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« Reply #401: March 27, 2024, 05:14:40 PM »
Disaster averted by Washington, DC.

Any efforts to renovate Cap One must be combined with massive quality of life improvements to Chinatown.

One would think they may have reached a tacit understanding on that, which alone might make this whole experience worth it

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« Reply #402: March 27, 2024, 05:43:34 PM »
Heard this today and made me think of Ted. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_yH5ItSgU&pp=ygUab2ggbG9uZXNvbWUgbWUgbmVpbCB5b3VuZyA%3D

Yongkin didn’t come out of this looking too good either. 

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« Reply #403: March 27, 2024, 06:53:11 PM »
Like I said, they'll just wait for Spanberger
That post did not age well.

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« Reply #404: March 27, 2024, 07:17:34 PM »
We were watching it on TV and I remarked that I can't remember the last time Ted wasn't down on the ice for this type of ceremony.

This AP story picked up on that:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/03/nhls-capitals-and-nbas-wizards-are-staying-in-washington-after-virginia-arena-deal-collapses.html

“Leonsis was notably not on the ice Sunday for a ceremony honoring longtime Capitals winger T.J. Oshie for reaching the milestone of 1,000 NHL games. He was booed by some fans when his message to Oshie came up on arena video screens.”

As far as some of the new plans:

“The project is set to include 200,000 square feet (18,580 square meters) of expansion of the arena complex into the nearby Gallery Place space, the creation of an entertainment district in the city’s surrounding Chinatown neighborhood and safety and transportation upgrades, according to the letter.”

Used to go to the bed Bath and beyond there; fixing up that complex up combined with the “safety up upgrades” might be a difference maker for that corridor.

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Re: Caps and Wiz moving to Potomac Yards?
« Reply #405: March 27, 2024, 07:27:07 PM »
Dear Fans and Supporters,

I am thrilled to share that moments ago I signed a letter of intent with D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser for a major partnership to renovate and modernize Capital One Arena, expanding Monumental's business operations into Gallery Place, transforming Downtown D.C. into a premier entertainment destination. It is one that aligns our growth mindset with a public-private partnership, which we have been seeking.

About an hour ago, we publicly celebrated this big new partnership with the city – the Mayor, City Council, Metro Police, our neighbors, and business partners – and announced this truly new and unique opportunity for collaboration. This is the first and only letter of intent we have signed regarding a new or upgraded facility. I spoke earlier today with the Governor of Virginia, Mayor of Alexandria, and CEO of JBG SMITH, Matt Kelly, to thank them for their time and efforts on our proposal and to inform them of this newly formally signed deal with D.C.

The assertive actions of Mayor Bowser and the D.C. Council juxtaposed against our experience in Virginia evolved our view of the best partner to support the growth of our business. In the past three months, the pivot and great work in D.C. were in stark relief from what we ultimately experienced in Virginia. While the Virginia House of Delegates did great work in evaluating our proposal, the Senate sadly did no work in even providing us a fair hearing on the true financial benefit of the project. Contrasted with the open level of collaboration that we now have in D.C., we know we are in the best position to meet the next big objectives for the benefit of our fans.

What we have been able to negotiate in D.C. gives us tremendous opportunities. First, we are gaining 200,000 square feet of additional space as we will expand our business and hospitality operations into Gallery Place. With this expansion of space, we have the ability to program the arena and campus to drive more options for visitors and provide more services to our players and our fans. We also sought a deal that would right-size our organization with the Nationals, Orioles, and Ravens as to their venues and partnerships with the City and State. We also sought a new level of cooperation with a government entity around services such as traffic mitigation, safety and security, and cleanliness. We also sought a better and more efficient way to communicate with regulatory agencies and cut through red tape with more efficient approvals. We also sought more direct control of our practice facilities and office buildings. And more control of our future.

We expect to create new viewing options, better and different sight lines, more comfortable seating, upgrade technical and functional infrastructure, and modernize the building as we shift from an analog to a digital world. 

This new deal achieves most of, if not all, our key objectives. And I was very impressed with the Mayor’s stick-with-it attitude — she never gave up and was always reaching out to me to keep and expand our business operations in D.C. Gratefully, we kept a good dialogue going with the City and our Mayor and have netted this opportunity for a new chapter for our organization.

And that is in no small part because of the tremendous work undertaken by Mayor Bowser and the D.C. Council. Since the announcement that we were pursuing a partnership with Virginia in December 2023, D.C. officials have taken concrete action to support Monumental Sports and the downtown community. In January 2024, the Mayor announced the formation of the Gallery Place/Chinatown Task Force to articulate a defined vision surrounding Capital One Arena and committed $400 million for the Downtown Action Plan and a Downtown Public Realm Plan to ensure the long-term success of Downtown D.C.’s commercial core. The Mayor also opened the first Safe Commercial Corridor Hub in the Chinatown neighborhood staffed by outreach teams from multiple public safety and human services agencies that will be able to respond in real-time to challenges in the community. And earlier this month, the Council passed the Secure DC omnibus legislation with a multi-prong strategy and tactics to combat crime, including a designation around the Chinatown neighborhood as a drug-free enforcement zone.

With this concentration of efforts downtown and particularly around our building, we are witnessing the city taking seriously the central role we can and will now play in downtown revitalization. The Mayor has articulated that we are a top priority for her administration, and we really believe it to be true.

Sports teams provide incredible benefits to the surrounding community and drive extraordinary economic impact and a strong public private partnership is essential to sustaining both – which the Mayor recognizes. According to research conducted by the DC Business Improvement District, activity at Capital One Arena generated $54 million in DC tax revenue in 2023. Across our region, public private partnerships are the norm for professional sports teams: the MLB’s Washington Nationals secured $700 million in public financing to build Nationals Park and $400 million in public financing to build Audi Field for the MLS’s D.C. United. The Maryland Stadium Authority recently announced a $1.2 billion investment for Oriole Park at Camden Yards, home of the MLB’s Baltimore Orioles and M&T Bank Stadium, home of the NFL’s Baltimore Ravens, each receiving $600 million for renovations and upgrades on top of the original public funding used in the planning, financing and construction of both.

So, through our own public-private partnership, we will transform Capital One Arena and engage in new space across Gallery Place to create a truly iconic epicenter – worthy of this iconic city. We will get more space, dedicated resources to create the family-friendly entertainment zone we’ve envisioned to service our millions of customers and support for our employees and athletes to make this a destination to attract and retain their talent. 

What’s most inspiring in this moment is the City’s shared vision that we achieve great success in our business. The new downtown plan which Mayor Bowser has articulated is impressive and she has made financial commitment from the city. The passage of the new crime bill led by Councilmember Brooke Pinto is very important to all citizens and businesses. 

I truly applaud the Mayor for recognizing the incredible value we bring, create and help foster and for evolving the business-friendly climate in D.C. And today we celebrate this incredible milestone for our business, for our city, for our employees, fans, and athletes! 

Our work begins now to build a state-of-the-art marquee venue for with new seating options, five-star culinary experiences that go way beyond the traditional game-day fare, and cutting-edge technology, right in the middle of the city. We're on a mission to create a masterpiece – and redefine the sports and entertainment experience, not just for the DMV, but for all sports fans.

Get ready to be part of something extraordinary!

Ted

FYT

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Re: Caps and Wiz moving to Potomac Yards?
« Reply #406: March 27, 2024, 07:31:54 PM »
DC was where we always wanted to be!

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« Reply #407: March 27, 2024, 07:34:54 PM »
DC was where we always wanted to be!

And the shots at Virginia may seem to illustrate why having him as a business partner / massive public funding recipient may not have been at the top of many lists.

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« Reply #408: March 27, 2024, 07:41:10 PM »
Favorite arena story so far:

https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/13/just-in-washington-capitals-and-wizards-are-officially-moving-to-potomac-yard/

BREAKING: Washington Capitals and Wizards are officially moving to Potomac Yard
ALXnow.com December 13, 2023 at 8:30am

Updated 3/27/2024 — The Washington Capitals and Washington Wizards are not, in fact, coming to Potomac Yard

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« Reply #409: March 27, 2024, 07:45:52 PM »
And the shots at Virginia may seem to illustrate why having him as a business partner / massive public funding recipient may not have been at the top of many lists.
He’s no Dan Snyder yet.  But give him a chance. 

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« Reply #410: March 27, 2024, 07:49:22 PM »
He’s no Dan Snyder yet.  But give him a chance. 

His stewardship of the Wizards is Snyderesque

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« Reply #411: March 27, 2024, 08:00:50 PM »
He’s no Dan Snyder yet.  But give him a chance.

He will be once Ovi hangs up his skates...Ovi literally put this putz on the map singlehandedly...

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« Reply #412: March 27, 2024, 08:29:50 PM »
And the shots at Virginia may seem to illustrate why having him as a business partner / massive public funding recipient may not have been at the top of many lists.

He doesn't have to worry about burning a bridge...may as well deflect this abject failure to someone else.

Hope he ran up a million dollars in consultant fees on the Alexandria proposal...

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« Reply #413: March 27, 2024, 09:36:16 PM »
The pearls keep coming:

https://wtop.com/dc/2024/03/alexandria-says-capitals-wizards-arena-deal-is-dead/

“”How do we make this the greatest downtown? You can’t do it alone, and I felt that we were really in a good partnership, as opposed to where I thought I would have a great partnership,” Leonsis, managing partner of Monumental Sports & Entertainment, said, referring to his failed deal in Virginia.”

Also:

“In a statement to WTOP, Youngkin expressed his disappointment with the General Assembly for not agreeing to the deal. “Virginians deserve better..”

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Re: Caps and Wiz moving to Potomac Yards?
« Reply #414: March 28, 2024, 02:16:08 AM »
Thought this was interesting from the above:

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Leonsis said more space around Capital One Arena has become available recently, which will allow Monumental to fulfill its vision of a sports and entertainment complex in Downtown D.C., rather than having to relocate to Potomac Yard.

In December, D.C. offered $500 million in upgrades to the arena to keep the teams from moving to Virginia. The agreement announced Wednesday includes an additional $15 million for improvements to the alley connecting Gallery Place to Capital One Arena.

In all, the deal calls for nearly 200,000 square feet of newly programmed space throughout the arena and in the Gallery Place building next door.


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« Reply #416: March 28, 2024, 07:15:38 AM »
If he’s getting his entertainment district, DC is getting worked

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Re: Caps and Wiz moving to Potomac Yards?
« Reply #417: March 28, 2024, 08:33:27 AM »
Thought this was interesting from the above:

I think they were talking about space where Bed Bath and Beyond used to be. I thought they went bankrupt 5+ years ago.

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« Reply #418: March 28, 2024, 09:22:00 AM »
One would think they may have reached a tacit understanding on that, which alone might make this whole experience worth it
I agree. But this moment has to not be seen as a win but as a disaster averted. I think the Mayor gets that. I hope the Council keeps its nerve and continues to clean up its mess.

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« Reply #419: March 28, 2024, 09:24:41 AM »
If he’s getting his entertainment district, DC is getting worked
$500 million for an entertainment district is less bothersome to me than $300 million for a Nationals Park scoreboard.

There’s an opportunity here for a real rebirth in Chinatown. I’m oddly optimistic about the situation. We’re not that far removed from that being a great neighborhood. This isn’t a generational decline, it’s a rapid drop off over a few years. It won’t snap back over night, but the potential is there.

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« Reply #420: March 28, 2024, 09:28:08 AM »
Have to think between keeping Caps and Wizards and having to fork over to the Nationals that Commanders moving to RFK is probably dead?

I would love for DC to do anything possible to entice a world class stadium capable of hosting mega events but I don’t think the money will be there and I just don’t think they’ll give developers free reign to build the site. Which is a shame. Our capital city should have a worthy stadium.

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« Reply #421: March 28, 2024, 09:29:39 AM »
Have to think between keeping Caps and Wizards and having to fork over to the Nationals that Commanders moving to RFK is probably dead?

I would love for DC to do anything possible to entice a world class stadium capable of hosting mega events but I don’t think the money will be there and I just don’t think they’ll give developers free reign to build the site. Which is a shame. Our capital city should have a worthy stadium.
As much as I have loathed the WFT during my lifetime that would be very nice to have them back in DC.  It’s where they belong for sure. 

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« Reply #422: March 28, 2024, 09:39:12 AM »
As much as I have loathed the WFT during my lifetime that would be very nice to have them back in DC.  It’s where they belong for sure. 

It’s not worth turning the whole site into a casino, hotel, entertainment district that the team will want

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« Reply #423: March 28, 2024, 10:25:10 AM »
It’s not worth turning the whole site into a casino, hotel, entertainment district that the team will want
I will reserve judgment until it happens and see what the estimates say.  It will be telling to see how the Sixers project in Philly Chinatown goes.  Not sure the status of that but Harris seems adamant about getting his own arena at that location.  Not sure if he is a better deal maker than Leonsis.

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« Reply #424: March 28, 2024, 12:04:14 PM »
I will reserve judgment until it happens and see what the estimates say.  It will be telling to see how the Sixers project in Philly Chinatown goes.  Not sure the status of that but Harris seems adamant about getting his own arena at that location.  Not sure if he is a better deal maker than Leonsis.

I think if you ask local residents, they’d prefer a rec center, fields, and green space to a stadium. Doubly so to a district