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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #75: November 20, 2013, 01:30:39 AM »
Josh Johnson to the Padres on a 1 year, 8 million dollar pact.

Good deal for both sides... potentially.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #76: November 20, 2013, 09:49:48 AM »
Yes, that's a terrific make good contract.  It isn't even a pillow contract.   He hits, and the Padres can deal him if he's not in contention.  For a marginal to a non-contender, the big upside but less likely to pay off type of signing is better than a conservative signing with less upside. 

Another reason why the Haren signing was  bad signing last year was because he was a gamble signing without a Lannan back up.  A contender cannot afford the time while it figures out what it has in a gamble type of arm.  A marginal team like SD can afford it.
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Offline Mr Clean

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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #77: November 20, 2013, 08:33:17 PM »
Fielder to Texas for Kinsler per Heyman and others.  Now that's a trade for your ass right there.
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« Reply #78: November 20, 2013, 08:50:30 PM »
Damn. I think that Prince as a better chance at being productive for the life of his deal though. Kinsler has been declining.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #79: November 20, 2013, 09:09:43 PM »
My gut instinct is, great trade for both teams.

TEX can keep Andrus at SS and Profar at 2B, plus replace Mitch Moreland with the world's top-slugging vegan nacho thief.
DET can slide Cabrera back to 1B, replace him with a real 3B, and have Kinsler in between. Plus, they can keep Scherzer on the savings.

Great, great deal. Also, it says a lot about how much defense and budget flexibility are valued these days that Ian Kinsler is perceived as being roughly equal in value to Prince Fielder.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #80: November 20, 2013, 09:16:08 PM »
You could also say that it's amazing fielder is tradable two years into a contract that people routinely panned
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Offline Vega

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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #81: November 20, 2013, 09:18:48 PM »
So does Detroit re-sign Peralta to play third or do they go with Castellanos? The market for free agent third basemen isn't very good. Eric Chavez could be a fit I suppose...
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #82: November 20, 2013, 09:23:49 PM »
Quote from: Vega on November 20, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
So does Detroit re-sign Peralta to play third or do they go with Castellanos? The market for free agent third basemen isn't very good. Eric Chavez could be a fit I suppose...

Castellanos for sure. Castellanos, Iglesias, Kinsler, Cabrera, Avila, with VMart DHing. Now they focus on outfield.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #83: November 20, 2013, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote from: houston-nat on November 20, 2013, 09:23:49 PM
Castellanos for sure. Castellanos, Iglesias, Kinsler, Cabrera, Avila, with VMart DHing. Now they focus on outfield.
They need a corner outfielder because Dirks is meh, yes? Ibanez and Nelson Crux come to mind.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #84: November 20, 2013, 09:32:37 PM »
I wonder if this takes Texas out of the running for McCann?
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #85: November 20, 2013, 09:52:50 PM »
Crazy news to come home to.  Obviously filling a gap at second is awesome and moving Miggy back to 1b is another massive positive. 

I really think Prince has a great season in TEX this year.  He was going through a ton of crap in his personal life this year. 

Good trade both ways.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #86: November 20, 2013, 10:19:01 PM »
Quote from: TigerFan on November 20, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
I really think Prince has a great season in TEX this year.  He was going through a ton of crap in his personal life this year. 

Plus, our ballpark is a launch pad. I'm gonna love seeing him at Arlington, where our nachos are way tastier targets for stealing.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #87: November 21, 2013, 01:07:39 AM »
just a thought:  Perhaps the Rangers now trade Moreland & Profar for Price and sign Cano?

That would be one hell of a lineup.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #88: November 21, 2013, 01:08:00 AM »
Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on November 20, 2013, 01:30:39 AM
Josh Johnson to the Padres on a 1 year, 8 million dollar pact.

Good deal for both sides... potentially.

incentive laden?
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #89: November 21, 2013, 01:12:26 AM »
Quote from: imref on November 21, 2013, 01:07:39 AM
just a thought:  Perhaps the Rangers now trade Moreland & Profar for Price and sign Cano?

That would be one hell of a lineup.
Lol. Moreland. He sucks hard. No one would want him.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #90: November 21, 2013, 01:19:14 AM »
Quote from: Vega on November 21, 2013, 01:12:26 AM
Lol. Moreland. He sucks hard. No one would want him.

Loney sucked too before tampa signed him,  :) (and Moreland his 23 HRs this past year).

Profar the prize, Moreland is a throw-in (and probably some minor leaguers.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #91: November 21, 2013, 05:57:51 AM »
What would be the point cant sign price and canoe long term. Profar can potentially save them loads of cash they made this trade to make room for him
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #92: November 21, 2013, 03:08:34 PM »
Quote from: sph274 on November 21, 2013, 05:57:51 AM
What would be the point cant sign price and canoe long term. Profar can potentially save them loads of cash they made this trade to make room for him

Win now.  Price/cano > profar.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #93: November 21, 2013, 04:51:27 PM »
Royals sign Jason Vargas, 4yr/$32m

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/royals-to-sign-jason-vargas.html

That's one more starter off of the available list for Rizzo.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #94: November 21, 2013, 04:57:02 PM »
Dodgers talking to Dan Haren.  Good fit for him, little pressure and a pitcher's park.
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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #95: November 21, 2013, 05:27:49 PM »
Quote from: imref on November 21, 2013, 04:57:02 PM
Dodgers talking to Dan Haren.  Good fit for him, little pressure and a pitcher's park.

also, I like our odd is we have to face him in the playoffs ;)
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #96: November 22, 2013, 02:24:03 PM »
Bourjos to Cards per Rosenthal. presumably Freese to Angels.
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« Reply #97: November 22, 2013, 03:33:52 PM »
more details from mlbtr

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The Angels and Cardinals have officially announced a trade that will send center fielder Peter Bourjos and outfield prospect Randal Grichuk to the Cardinals in exchange for third baseman David Freese and right-hander Fernando Salas.
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #98: November 22, 2013, 08:12:48 PM »
So, Carpenter to 3d, Wong to 2d, still looking for a SS upgrade.   I suppose Adams can be dealt either for an SS or another OF with Bourjos playing in the right or center and just one other defensively good offensively challenged pairing for whatever they don't backfill when they trade adams.

[edit - oops, forgot Tavares.  So he gets one non-Holliday slot, Bourjos the other, and Jay is a 4th OF)]
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Re: Offseason moves unrelated to the Nats
« Reply #99: November 22, 2013, 08:26:31 PM »
Terrible trade for the Angels. I think the 2013 version of Freese is accurate for what you should expect from the guy.
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