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Offline saltydad

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Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Topic Start: May 06, 2008, 01:17:12 AM »
As I have mentioned previously, we're in the process of getting info and meeting with companies on putting in a backyard pond. If anyone on the board has had any experience with this, I'd appreciate hearing from you, either here or via PM if desired. While I used to sell fish and plants for ponds at my garden center, we did not do pond installations. So far we've met with 2 different companies, and the difference between them is night and day. Thanks.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #1: May 06, 2008, 03:44:52 PM »
Hi Salty,
I don't have any experience with backyard ponds, but if the estimates vary greatly, you may want to make sure that the tasks and materials are comparable. It might mean that they aren't talking about doing the same quality or level of work, or using all of the same things or completing the job the same way. Just a thought.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #2: May 06, 2008, 03:56:56 PM »
Don't eat the yellow snow.

Truthfully, my parents had a rather complex backyard pond at their last house.  If you're really wanting info, I can put you in touch with one of them.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #3: May 06, 2008, 04:08:45 PM »
My Maine Coon says to be sure and get tasty fishes.


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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #4: May 06, 2008, 05:22:28 PM »
Plan on having lots of mosquitoes.  [Bzzzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzz.]

And maybe West Nile Virus or good old malaria.  [Bzzzzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzzzzzzz.]

And YES, there IS a Smiley for THAT:

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #5: May 06, 2008, 05:27:56 PM »
Plan on having lots of mosquitoes.  [Bzzzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzz.]

Mosquito larvae are #1 fish food, yum...

Ponds that are aerated or have water movement aren't good skeeter breeding grounds, they need still water and a chance not to be eaten, for about 5-7 days.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #6: May 06, 2008, 06:31:11 PM »
While koi are not a good mosquito larval control, goldfish, orfe and gambusia are great at keeping any skeeter larvae in their stomachs. Additionally, the pond will have a waterfall, so there shouldn't be any stagnant water. I use Dunks in places where water can pool during the summer already.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #7: May 06, 2008, 10:27:48 PM »
yEAH, I thought we discuseed the Mosquito issue before.  Didn't we?

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #8: May 07, 2008, 08:17:27 AM »
Salty, I've got a pile of Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazines with articles on pond management and design, I'll try to get them to you soon.  Might find some nugget of information worth using.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #9: May 07, 2008, 08:18:51 AM »
Yes, but I forget which thread.

yEAH, I thought we discuseed the Mosquito issue before.  Didn't we?

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #10: May 07, 2008, 01:38:45 PM »
Salty, I've got a pile of Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazines with articles on pond management and design, I'll try to get them to you soon.  Might find some nugget of information worth using.
Thanks Tom. I've read TFH for decades, but frankly skipped the pond articles. :-[

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #11: May 07, 2008, 01:54:08 PM »
For a 6 x 9 pond with a waterfall, I'm given figures from $4500 to $6500. They all use flagstone and natural rock, liners (not sprayed), with a depth of 2 1/2 to 3 ft. It's a 2 day job. I have to spring for having an electrical line run to the pond with associated GFIs separately. Here's a pic of one they did of the size I'm interested in.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #12: May 07, 2008, 01:56:27 PM »
I think you should build a moat.  You never know when you might have to harbor WNFF refugees ;)

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #13: May 07, 2008, 03:10:01 PM »
You like the look? ;) Maybe a little over the top?

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #14: May 07, 2008, 03:38:42 PM »
Thanks Tom. I've read TFH for decades, but frankly skipped the pond articles. :-[

Do you still have them, or would you like to see mine?  I saved them for a neighbor who was thinking about a pond, and he's done with them.  All from the last 4 years or so.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #15: May 07, 2008, 03:56:17 PM »
Needs some alligators. :lol:

You like the look? ;) Maybe a little over the top?

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #16: May 07, 2008, 09:05:28 PM »
Do you still have them, or would you like to see mine?  I saved them for a neighbor who was thinking about a pond, and he's done with them.  All from the last 4 years or so.
No, I don't still have them, and yes, I'd love to see them. I'll send you a PM.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #17: May 08, 2008, 03:00:25 PM »
Wow, that pond looks very cool....but the moat might be more useful...

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #18: May 08, 2008, 05:41:41 PM »
Well, you know, just like any other renovation.  One renovation leads to another and another and another.  If you're going to have a moat like that, you might as well convert the house to a Castle!  Of course if you upgrade to Castle, you have to have a drawbridge.

Forget the alligators, and upgrade to Dragons!

This can get expensive!!!   ;) :lol:

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #19: May 10, 2008, 01:17:07 PM »
My Maine Coon says to be sure and get tasty fishes.

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S/he is a beautiful Coon! Man, I miss my guys. :(

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #20: May 10, 2008, 01:37:03 PM »
S/he is a beautiful Coon! Man, I miss my guys. :(

She. 11 years=one fish. Not the best hunter but she's persistent.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #21: May 10, 2008, 05:56:55 PM »
A friend had several cats, one of them a Maine Coon (and a real sweetie). He was not a good hunter but one of the other cats was. My friend said that the Coon would try to convince her that he had caught the offerings that the other cats left on her doorstep.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #22: June 18, 2008, 11:17:39 PM »
Bump

Pix of the pond construction can be seen at:

http://flickr.com/photos/saltydad/sets/72157605695151443/

for those interested.

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #23: June 18, 2008, 11:56:35 PM »
That is one large pond...what was the final verdict on occupants?  You could probably fit a small whale in that thing. 

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Re: Backyard Pond Advice Wanted
« Reply #24: June 19, 2008, 04:33:42 PM »
LOL. Actually the pond itself is a modest 7' by 10', with the stream about 6' in length. No koi; it's way too small. Some goldfish...shubunkins and sarassa comets is the plan once it's ready for fish. The completed pond and my initial plantings around the pond are now posted at the above site. Waiting for the water to clear; as it's rock-lined, it takes a while even when you rinse the rocks/gravel before using. Now my back is killing me from the planting; thank g-d I didn't do the pond myself. ;)