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Offline blue911

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #25: May 20, 2008, 05:06:58 PM »
Really?

I'm not asking sarcastically - I don't follow the farm system as religiously as some of y'all and just don't know what kind of reports/stats justify saying VanAllen has "clearly" better pitches than Lannan.

Lannan isn't blessed with any great pitches. His main asset is between his ears not his shoulders.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #26: May 20, 2008, 05:22:00 PM »
Really?

I'm not asking sarcastically - I don't follow the farm system as religiously as some of y'all and just don't know what kind of reports/stats justify saying VanAllen has "clearly" better pitches than Lannan.

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VanAllen brings a low- to mid-90’s four-seam fastball, a two-seamer, and a changeup to go with his newly mastered slider.


I found that in this article from a few weeks back talking about VanAllen's promotion to AA and his stuff. He had adopted a curve ball last year but it wasn't doing anything for him so he developed a nasty slider over the off-season.

http://www.insidenova.com/isn/sports/minors/potomac_nationals/article/vanallen_sliding_upward/14889/

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #27: May 20, 2008, 06:44:34 PM »
Lannan isn't blessed with any great pitches. His main asset is between his ears not his shoulders.

Generally agree, but Lannan also has excellent control.  I'm not sure how much of that is mental vs. just a talent gift. 

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #28: May 20, 2008, 06:51:25 PM »
Generally agree, but Lannan also has excellent control.  I'm not sure how much of that is mental vs. just a talent gift. 

His backdoor breaking ball against righties is really unique. It's got late cutting action and rarely do the batters expect it to be a strike. It's actually got a loop and a cut. Really cool pitch.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #29: May 20, 2008, 07:05:49 PM »
His backdoor breaking ball against righties is really unique. It's got late cutting action and rarely do the batters expect it to be a strike. It's actually got a loop and a cut. Really cool pitch.

I think that's a baby slider.


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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #30: May 20, 2008, 07:07:34 PM »
Generally agree, but Lannan also has excellent control.  I'm not sure how much of that is mental vs. just a talent gift. 

His college coach was on before Lannan's last Mets start. He made it sound like Lannan never had great stuff and aways had to work on his control.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #31: May 23, 2008, 06:22:50 PM »
What Lannan does so well is mix his pitches up - keeping the batters off balance -- and he is about as cool a customer on the mound as I've seen in a long time - Lannan's definitely got mental and physical gifts ... it's great to see him doing so well -- Sounds live VanAllen could be the real deal too ...  love it ...

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #32: May 29, 2008, 10:32:46 AM »
Van Allen got rocked last night by Akron.  Pitched 1.2 innings, gave up 5 runs and 7 hits.  Good lesson for the kid. 

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #33: May 29, 2008, 02:01:36 PM »
Van Allen got rocked last night by Akron.  Pitched 1.2 innings, gave up 5 runs and 7 hits.  Good lesson for the kid. 

I agree.  He's got to get grounded again - a record like his could get to ones head.  A shalacking like this is what the doctor ordered.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #34: May 30, 2008, 08:54:31 AM »
I agree.  He's got to get grounded again - a record like his could get to ones head.  A shalacking like this is what the doctor ordered.

I was at this game and it wasn't pretty.  He started off decent striking out two in the first inning.  Everything that could go wrong did so in the 2nd inning.  2 errors  (Desmond and Castro) didn't help VanAllen's situation any.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #35: June 01, 2008, 03:31:13 AM »
I was at this game and it wasn't pretty.  He started off decent striking out two in the first inning.  Everything that could go wrong did so in the 2nd inning.  2 errors  (Desmond and Castro) didn't help VanAllen's situation any.

Bernie Castro??
Is he still in the system??
Is Melvin Dorta?

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #36: June 01, 2008, 12:22:20 PM »
Bernie Castro??
Is he still in the system??
Is Melvin Dorta?
Castro is playing for the Yankees' AAA team and is batting .240 with 0 HR and 10 RBIs in 154 ABs.
Dorta is playing for the Pirates' AA team and is batting .273 with 4 HR and 17 RBIs in 165 ABs.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #37: June 01, 2008, 12:39:33 PM »
Bernie Castro??
Is he still in the system??
Is Melvin Dorta?
I think he was talking about Offilio Castro.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #38: June 01, 2008, 12:44:48 PM »
I think he was talking about Offilio Castro.

Which just begs for you to call him "Awful"

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #39: June 01, 2008, 12:53:26 PM »
I think he was talking about Offilio Castro.
I doubt it. He was talking about Bernie Castro I think. Remember him? Little slap hitter who played 2B.  :-[

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #40: June 01, 2008, 12:58:05 PM »
Ian Desmond the SS for Harrisburg has a team leading 16 errors as of June 1st.  :shock: :evil: :icon_frown: :( :? :'( :rofl: :icon_question: :icon_mrgreen: :pray: :rant: :panic: :stupid: :hang: :ballbat: :devil: :spaz: :glug: :nono: :bang: :idea: :rant: :uk:

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #41: June 01, 2008, 12:58:14 PM »
I was at this game and it wasn't pretty.  He started off decent striking out two in the first inning.  Everything that could go wrong did so in the 2nd inning.  2 errors  (Desmond and Castro) didn't help VanAllen's situation any.

Why would he think it was Bernie Castro?

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #42: June 01, 2008, 01:01:54 PM »
Ian Desmond the SS for Harrisburg has a team leading 16 errors as of June 1st.  :shock: :evil: :icon_frown: :( :? :'( :rofl: :icon_question: :icon_mrgreen: :pray: :rant: :panic: :stupid: :hang: :ballbat: :devil: :spaz: :glug: :nono: :bang: :idea: :rant: :uk:
Sorry I thought this was another thread.

Offline mikehughes

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #43: June 01, 2008, 09:44:36 PM »
Why would he think it was Bernie Castro?

Because I thought he was still in our system?

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #44: June 01, 2008, 09:47:35 PM »
I doubt it. He was talking about Bernie Castro I think. Remember him? Little slap hitter who played 2B.  :-[
Uh, the dude who was actually at a recent Senators game was certainly talking about Offilio Castro, unless he went in some time machine and watched some game back when Bernie Castro was in our system. :P

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #45: June 01, 2008, 09:49:24 PM »
Uh, the dude who was actually at a recent Senators game was certainly talking about Offilio Castro, unless he went in some time machine and watched some game back when Bernie Castro was in our system. :P
I know, but I believe mikehughes was referring to Bernie Castro in his post.

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #46: June 04, 2008, 02:40:01 PM »
I think he was talking about Offilio Castro.

So so late in replying but yes I was talking about Offilio Castro.

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #47: June 06, 2008, 02:10:37 PM »
VanAllen was placed on the 7-day DL yesterday, retroactive to May 29th. What's the point of even putting him on the DL?

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Re: Cory VanAllen
« Reply #48: June 06, 2008, 03:15:00 PM »
VanAllen was placed on the 7-day DL yesterday, retroactive to May 29th. What's the point of even putting him on the DL?
Maybe it's long term.