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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #125: September 21, 2007, 08:33:22 PM »
maybe we struck a deal with the phillies, we lay down for them for 3 games in exchange for them to lay down for us on sunday for our last game in rfk.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #126: September 21, 2007, 08:34:17 PM »
Bergmann is tha best we have curently, but at full health and full potential you already know who tha ace is.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #127: September 21, 2007, 08:35:07 PM »
I can only blame Shawn, with qualifications, for this outing because I don't know whether his stuff was bad or he couldn't get strikes called.

At the beginning of the game, it was obvious that Shawn wasn't going to have a good night because of the "strike zone" of Larry Poncino.  If Hill can't get low strikes, he can''t be successful.  And these were actual strikes not balls that could be called strikes.

The homeplate umpire can't have this much latitude in deciding what the strike zone is.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #128: September 21, 2007, 08:35:22 PM »
maybe we struck a deal with the phillies, we lay down for them for 3 games in exchange for them to lay down for us on sunday for our last game in rfk.
Even if they try to lay down on Sunday we will still LOSE because yep, Joel Walkrahan is pitching.  Even if the Phillies try to lay down he'll keep walking them and putting them on base.  Sunday's game is going to be UG-LY just like today's game and tomorrow's. 

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #129: September 21, 2007, 08:35:26 PM »
Bergmann is tha best we have curently, but at full health and full potential you already know who tha ace is.

I'm too afraid to use that term ever again after the JP fiasco w/ it!

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #130: September 21, 2007, 08:35:33 PM »
And that's the difference between Berg & Hill that Sutton keeps talking about.  He says that when Hill gets in a jam, he gets too frustrated and can't pitch out of it.  And he also says that Berg can have a bad few pitches and mentally get beyond it and pick up w/ some good pitches.  He doesn't let it defeat him.  If that's accurate, then I think Berg is the best pitcher we have and not Hill.

Correction. Hill is by far the best pitcher we have right now until some of our young arms develop. Bergmann is not even in the same conversation with Hill irrespective of this bad outing and some average ones recently.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #131: September 21, 2007, 08:35:42 PM »
F*** RFK!! That would have been 5 rows deep in Philly. 

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #132: September 21, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »
hit it out tha park wpm!!

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #133: September 21, 2007, 08:36:56 PM »
Bergmann is tha best we have curently, but at full health and full potential you already know who tha ace is.

BUT IF Sutton is right, then Berg is the best we will have, short of bringing in new pitchers.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #134: September 21, 2007, 08:37:14 PM »
Eaton is throwing at Wily Mo on purpose!!! So classless  :roll:

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #135: September 21, 2007, 08:37:23 PM »
that ump needs his eyes check

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #136: September 21, 2007, 08:37:30 PM »
F*** RFK!! That would have been 5 rows deep in Philly. 

The phillies have no issue hitting them.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #137: September 21, 2007, 08:37:44 PM »
Correction. Hill is by far the best pitcher we have right now until some of our young arms develop. Bergmann is not even in the same conversation with Hill irrespective of this bad outing and some average ones recently.

If he's gonna keep getting flustered and not able to pull himself together and pitch out of it, then he's not a good pitcher.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #138: September 21, 2007, 08:37:49 PM »
BUT IF Sutton is right, then Berg is the best we will have, short of bringing in new pitchers.
Hill is the best on the staff. I'm sure Sutton and Carpenter would say the same thing without even thinking about it. 

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #139: September 21, 2007, 08:38:16 PM »
throw him out tha game ump!!!

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #140: September 21, 2007, 08:38:24 PM »
BUT IF Sutton is right, then Berg is the best we will have, short of bringing in new pitchers.

Sutton hasn't even come close to suggesting that Bergmann is better than Hill or that he's the best we have. Not even close.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #141: September 21, 2007, 08:38:45 PM »
Hill is the best on the staff. I'm sure Sutton and Carpenter would say the same thing without even thinking about it. 

But that's what's so interesting.  They haven't been saying that.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #142: September 21, 2007, 08:39:11 PM »
Sutton hasn't even come close to suggesting that Bergmann is better than Hill or that he's the best we have. Not even close.

You werent' listening to him during Berg's last two outtings.  Heard him myself.  dan did too.  Email Don and ask.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #143: September 21, 2007, 08:39:19 PM »
unbelievable.. dumbass umpire refuses to toss the idiot Charlie

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #144: September 21, 2007, 08:40:13 PM »
Sorries Phillies...

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Wily Mo hit by pitch, according to the hand in his batting glove.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #145: September 21, 2007, 08:40:17 PM »
I can't believe Eaton is still in this game!

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #146: September 21, 2007, 08:40:27 PM »
If he's gonna keep getting flustered and not able to pull himself together and pitch out of it, then he's not a good pitcher.

First of all, I've seen Bergmann get rocked numerous times. I have also seen Hill be consistently above average. There is no contest and using Sutton to make your point will not change that. Like sportsfan said, I too am certain Sutton would tell you that Hill is the better of the 2.

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #147: September 21, 2007, 08:40:45 PM »
Crooked Ump!!

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #148: September 21, 2007, 08:40:52 PM »
Did I read that right on the 4th page that Guzman is returning this weekend?!

That's great news, Guz and Belly is a pimpin combo

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Re: Nationals @ Phillies, Game 2
« Reply #149: September 21, 2007, 08:41:09 PM »
Vintage Ryan Church  :stupid:

Making Eaton look like a STUD.. well on his way to a quality start and W