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Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #25: April 15, 2019, 04:00:03 PM »
If we can hang around until closer to the trade deadline, then we'll surely be addressing the bullpen.  2 years ago we were able to bring in Doo with multiple years of control, Madsen for 2 years, and Kintzler for 1 year (then brought him back).  That was a great haul, although the A's were wise in what they got in return as Treinen has thrived and Jesus Luzardo might be the best left SP prospect in the game and should be helping them by late May or so. 

What do we have to offer?  Well, if we don't feel confident we can re-sign Rendon, then trading Kieboom is very, very, very risky.  I don't know what expendable assets we have to dangle that will bring back worthwhile bullpen help.  It would be nice for another Greg Holland to fall out of the sky as a reclamatiom project like we had last year.  More than anywhere else on your roster, teams get "lucky" with bullpen guys on the cheap that perform for a year.  We've been extremely unlucky.

Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #26: April 15, 2019, 04:00:55 PM »
True.

I'm the only one who has been living in that reality. Everyone was mocking me for saying he was a 25 million a year guy.

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #27: April 15, 2019, 05:12:14 PM »
You're dreamin'...

Mark Lerner wants the Nationals to be "competitive.'  He has set a low bar and Rizzo is still doing his best to clear it.

Good luck with goin' all in...it ain't happening as long as the Lerner's own this team...we're just gonna hope we get lucky someday...



The Lerners are definitely a big part of the problem. Rizzo isn't alone in trying to assemble a bullpen relatively cheaply, since it is a bit of a crap-shoot, but he has a long history of failing to have the right pieces at the start of the season and having to wait until the trade deadline to make up for it. I'd be interested to see if he would act differently if the owners were not handcuffing him. Hard to tell. I know a lot of people like to act like the owners aren't cheap, but they are, and predictably so. I doubt they have ever actually spent a dime of their own money on the team, even the purchase, which was financed. Sure, they have a good payroll, but they should given the revenues. But it was obvious they were never going all in with a signing of Bryce or anything else that would take them over the top. Once the money is spent, they don't like to cut bait, thus you see dead weight like Rosenthal taking up a wasted spot on the roster. It's like having Wily Mo Pena as a position player. With no budget room, they don't make moves.

That said, they will still find ways to remain competitive to keep the revenues up, but the sad thing is that with this starting pitching and the young talent under club control, they could be spending the payroll they have more wisely and actually have better success.

This bullpen really is a disgrace. The team still has bad approaches at the plate with RISP, but they have enough guys now who can actually put the ball in play, that they should be in every game with this starting pitching. If the owners pulled off the cuffs, they could cut bait on most of the pen and actually put something respectable together. The sad thing is that if everyone in the pen was even as good as Suero, they would probably be near the top of the division right now. I loved the Corbin signing, but what is the point if you are literally giving the game away after the seventh inning?

When your closer leads the league in wins, you should take notice. It is no longer "early". They need to make a significant move soon, or the season is over. This team always looked like a .500 club without Bryce, and they are proving that to be the case now.

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #28: April 16, 2019, 12:25:27 AM »
Quote from: shoeshineboy link=37453.msg2049244#msg2049244 date=1555362734
...It is no longer "early". They need to make a significant move soon, or the season is over....

Yes, the NL East is too good to lollygag around.  It's time to be bold.  It's counter-intuitive, but Rosenthal needs to be shamed into accepting his role as set-up man right now.  As he goes, so goes the team.

Can't wait until mid-may for Trea Turner. Call up Kieboom and put him at SS, even if his long term position is second base.

If Rendon is not signed by July 1, and things have gone south, then trade him. 

 

Offline bluestreak

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« Reply #29: April 16, 2019, 08:33:50 AM »
Last year they were a .500 team with Bryce so  :shrug: :shrug:

Offline Smithian

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #30: April 16, 2019, 10:34:53 AM »
I still think this is a transition year. I want the Nats to stay below the luxury tax for a reset and then this offseason go all in on Rendon. If you can get him, you have a centerpiece entering the 2020's. If you miss on Rendon, then by staying under luxury tax this year you've probably avoided some bad long term deals. And it is maybe time to make some tough decisions.

This has been a frustrating start, but it isn't like 7-7 is a bad place to be. We haven't dug a hole.

Offline aBaltoNat

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #31: April 18, 2019, 11:10:09 AM »
If we are going all in, trade for the expiring Khris Davis. We have a history of dealing with the A's and we need the extra power.

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« Reply #32: April 18, 2019, 11:24:08 AM »
If we are going all in, trade for the expiring Khris Davis. We have a history of dealing with the A's and we need the extra power.
Where are we playing him?  Also, we currently have the 7th highest home run per game rate in baseball. Do we need "extra power?" Or do we need a second baseman who can hit his weight?

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« Reply #33: April 18, 2019, 11:31:00 AM »
If we're looking for any extra power it should be a lefty, but there's really no spot besides 2nd base to put someone. Dozier really screws us because Kendrick is out-hitting him by a wide margin and they're both righties and Dozier cannot play anywhere else. A versatile 2B who is a lefty and can play SS would be much more ideal.

Offline bluestreak

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« Reply #34: April 18, 2019, 11:31:22 AM »
If we are going all in, trade for the expiring Khris Davis. We have a history of dealing with the A's and we need the extra power.

You’d sit Eaton for a guy who is going to bat .247. And who literally can’t throw the ball. No.

Online Slateman

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« Reply #35: April 18, 2019, 11:32:04 AM »
You’d sit Eaton for a guy who is going to bat .247. And who literally can’t throw the ball. No.
Also, you'd have to move Soto to RF

Offline aBaltoNat

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« Reply #36: April 18, 2019, 11:59:52 AM »
You’d sit Eaton for a guy who is going to bat .247. And who literally can’t throw the ball. No.

No, I'd play him at 1B.

We already have a 1B that can't throw.

Online Slateman

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« Reply #37: April 18, 2019, 12:50:20 PM »
No, I'd play him at 1B.

We already have a 1B that can't throw.
Davis is 5'10" and has never played first base.

Offline Squab

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #38: April 18, 2019, 04:18:22 PM »
If we are going all in, trade for the expiring Khris Davis. We have a history of dealing with the A's and we need the extra power.

also just got extended :lol:

Offline aBaltoNat

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #39: April 18, 2019, 05:56:39 PM »
also just got extended :lol:

Well...if it wasn't for that...it was a great idea.  :)

Was just reading an article about the best 19-20 FAs.

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #40: April 18, 2019, 07:12:01 PM »
I think we should get some of Oakland's relievers instead of Davis

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #41: May 09, 2019, 10:58:23 AM »

This thread...  :hysterical:

Offline aBaltoNat

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« Reply #42: May 09, 2019, 11:30:10 AM »
This thread...  :hysterical:

Yeahhhh.....about that...

Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #43: May 09, 2019, 12:35:18 PM »
Well. It's a month old. There was hope a month ago. All things in context.

This thread...  :hysterical:

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« Reply #44: May 29, 2019, 09:42:03 PM »
This is it boys!!! Its now or never.

Rizzo needs to make the moves to fix the bullpen. Find a way to dump Dozier and find a quality second baseman.

LET'S GO!!!

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #45: May 29, 2019, 09:45:32 PM »
:hysterical:

Offline tzinc

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« Reply #46: May 29, 2019, 10:08:22 PM »
this team threw in the towel when they wouldn't pay Dusty that set the tone

followed by hiring a dumba$$ and giving Harper a FAKE offer to just drive the stake in further

Offline bluestreak

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« Reply #47: May 29, 2019, 10:09:44 PM »
this team threw in the towel when they wouldn't pay Dusty that set the tone

followed by hiring a dumba$$ and giving Harper a FAKE offer to just drive the stake in further

Dude... give it a rest with the Dusty crap. Take my word, If you’ve lost me on this you’ve probably taken it too far.

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« Reply #48: May 29, 2019, 10:16:13 PM »
this team threw in the towel when they wouldn't pay Dusty that set the tone

followed by hiring a dumba$$ and giving Harper a FAKE offer to just drive the stake in further
Dusty lost the respect of the team. It was time to move on.

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Re: 2019: Go All In
« Reply #49: May 30, 2019, 07:08:48 AM »
I wanna report a recent spate of :w: s  appearing in the GDTs.     Does anyone know what they are?