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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #75: April 26, 2019, 10:25:40 AM »
do we have any long term injury guys who are not on the 60 day IL already?  Koda to the 60 day DL?

Jimmy Cordero and Raudy Read are DFA candidates.  Read is hitting just .214 this year.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #76: April 26, 2019, 10:28:49 AM »
Noll didn't get on the plane from Denver to DC...he played in Fresno last night:

https://www.milb.com/gameday/grizzlies-vs-aces/2019/04/25/580056#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=580056

So there is your 25 man move...but Nats still need to make a 40 man roster move before the game tonight.

Thanks for that...but you say we still need to make another move today?

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #77: April 26, 2019, 10:34:09 AM »
Jimmy Cordero and Raudy Read are DFA candidates.  Read is hitting just .214 this year.
just have Thanos snap his fingers  . . .

I think that, after losing Severino, they keep Read around at least until the next catcher (I forget the name) has to be added to the 40 man.  A Rosenthal DFA, coupled with activating Miller, makes some sense.  Otherwise, I think it is Koda to the 60 day DL.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #78: April 26, 2019, 10:34:14 AM »
Thanks for that...but you say we still need to make another move today?

Yes, because I don't think CK is on the 40 man...

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #79: April 26, 2019, 10:36:30 AM »
Calling up Kieboom to play everyday SS hopefully means they aren't happy with how the team is performing and maybe, just maybe, Martinez is on the hot seat.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #80: April 26, 2019, 10:38:56 AM »
Yes, because I don't think CK is on the 40 man...

Ah...thanks...

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #81: April 26, 2019, 10:41:40 AM »
Calling up Kieboom to play everyday SS hopefully means they aren't happy with how the team is performing and maybe, just maybe, Martinez is on the hot seat.
Well, it seems like that whenever Rizzo wants to shake up the culture of the club, he takes a bullpen pitcher and sacrifices him to Ba'al. He did that with the guy with the bad aura (Steve Shell?), he did it last year to Kelley and Kintzler, so I expect buzzards to be feeding on Rosenthal by first pitch.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #82: April 26, 2019, 10:52:10 AM »
just have Thanos snap his fingers  . . .

I think that, after losing Severino, they keep Read around at least until the next catcher (I forget the name) has to be added to the 40 man.  A Rosenthal DFA, coupled with activating Miller, makes some sense.  Otherwise, I think it is Koda to the 60 day DL.

Read is way down the depth chart.  Spencer Kieboom is at #3.  They have Reetz at Potomac and Tres Barrera at Harrisburg (who's posted .388 /.434 / .571 so far this year.)

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« Reply #83: April 26, 2019, 10:54:24 AM »
Well, it seems like that whenever Rizzo wants to shake up the culture of the club, he takes a bullpen pitcher and sacrifices him to Ba'al. He did that with the guy with the bad aura (Steve Shell?), he did it last year to Kelley and Kintzler, so I expect buzzards to be feeding on Rosenthal by first pitch.

If rizzo really wanted to shake things up he'd call up Bourque for Grace and tell Martinez to use Ross as a multi-inning fireman before tonight's game. Why not!

The Rosenthal problem is difficult to fix without cutting bait and giving up $8 million. They have to either get him to agree to a short AAA stint to get things right or find a way to stash him on the IL to do the same thing.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #84: April 26, 2019, 10:54:54 AM »
Danny Kelly of District on Deck tweets:

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#Nats will not DFA Trevor Rosenthal to clear a spot on the 40-man roster for Carter Kieboom. The likely move is transferring Koda Glover to the 60-day IL. My guess is the Nats will try to convince Rosenthal to go to AAA for a couple weeks. Ideally, they don't want to eat that $.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #85: April 26, 2019, 11:16:59 AM »
Danny Kelly of District on Deck tweets:

It seems hard to imagine a reason he wouldn't agree to that.  He has to know he has been too awful to keep putting back out there.   I guess he might prefer the option of getting his 7 million and spending the summer on the beach.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #86: April 26, 2019, 11:24:56 AM »
I think before sending him down, they need to pitch him back to back, or immediately after a day off. Let's see if putting him right back out there helps focus him a little more.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #87: April 26, 2019, 11:46:05 AM »
Zuck thinks Glover to the 60 day is the likely corresponding move as well.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #88: April 26, 2019, 11:55:29 AM »
I think we should just start pitching him every game we are down 2 runs in the 8th or 9th inning. In those situations the Nats would be <15% to win, at best. Baseball fans think comebacks happen more often than they do, and we should just let him figure it out or embarrass himself in games we're very likely to lose regardless.

A 5-run lead is a high leverage situation for him right now.

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« Reply #89: April 26, 2019, 11:58:40 AM »
I think we should just start pitching him every game we are down 2 runs in the 8th or 9th inning. In those situations the Nats would be <15% to win, at best. Baseball fans think comebacks happen more often than they do, and we should just let him figure it out or embarrass himself in games we're very likely to lose regardless.

A 5-run lead is a high leverage situation for him right now.

That's a disturbing thought, not least because I fully agree with you.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #90: April 26, 2019, 12:23:37 PM »
Read is way down the depth chart.  Spencer Kieboom is at #3.  They have Reetz at Potomac and Tres Barrera at Harrisburg (who's posted .388 /.434 / .571 so far this year.)

Barerra should move fast if he keeps hitting.  His defense is substantially better than Read's. 

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #91: April 26, 2019, 12:40:22 PM »
Barerra should move fast if he keeps hitting.  His defense is substantially better than Read's.
Meanwhile, 35 miles away, Pedro Severino looks like the guy the Nats hoped he would be.  I suspect it's because there is ZERO pressure on him and that makes a big difference.  Regardless, freak you, Pedro!

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #92: April 26, 2019, 12:51:18 PM »
Meanwhile, 35 miles away, Pedro Severino looks like the guy the Nats hoped he would be.  I suspect it's because there is ZERO pressure on him and that makes a big difference.  Regardless, freak you, Pedro!

He hit fine in DC for a month too, before the division and league figured him out.  Same thing will probably happen in the AL.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #93: April 26, 2019, 01:32:28 PM »
Read is way down the depth chart.  Spencer Kieboom is at #3.  They have Reetz at Potomac and Tres Barrera at Harrisburg (who's posted .388 /.434 / .571 so far this year.)
Is Reetz or Barrera on the 40 man?  Then right, Read can go.  If not, I think they don't dump him yet, especially if Koda can be put on the 60 day IL.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #94: April 26, 2019, 01:55:09 PM »
Catching is like pitching, you really can't have too many. Particularly when they're all defensive minded first and likely don't have much of an offensive upside. Actually, Read probably has more offensive upside than any of them.

May as well put Koda on the 60 day. He probably tore his elbow again.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #95: April 26, 2019, 02:00:37 PM »
We obviously badly need bullpen solutions, and right now, there aren't many options available to Rizzo.  We don't have any real significant trade chips to dangle right now, and the price would be very high for any high leverage proven bullpen guy.  Rosenthal at least is a guy who has the potential to help and we've invested 8 million.  It's way too early to cut bait.  St. Louis surely regrets it with Holland last year, and we reaped the rewards.  Do we want to eat 8 million only to see Rosenthal picked up for league minimum and thriving elsewhere in the 2nd half?

Hopefully Rosenthal is level-headed about where he's at and where the team is at and can swallow his pride and go to AAA to regain his form.  Approach him with a plan to get him back in DC pitching well.  Everybody is behind him.  Nobody wants to embarrass him and see him fail.  The organziation took a leap of faith and believed in him.  He should understand that.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #96: April 26, 2019, 02:02:20 PM »
Glover officially placed on 60-Day IL.

And nothing of value was lost.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #97: April 26, 2019, 02:15:29 PM »
Glover officially placed on 60-Day IL.

And nothing of value was lost.
But Rosenthal is still here

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #98: April 26, 2019, 04:44:41 PM »
Is Reetz or Barrera on the 40 man?  Then right, Read can go.  If not, I think they don't dump him yet, especially if Koda can be put on the 60 day IL.

Nope, but don't worry about Reetz - he's a non-prospect at this point.  He made it through the MiLB Rule 5.  Barrera would need to be added to the 40 only after this season as he's a 2016 draftee from college.

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Re: Roster Moves 2019
« Reply #99: April 26, 2019, 04:50:25 PM »
Barrera is the next one.  He gets Read's place if Read cannot move ahead of Spencer K and become the #3, but there's no sense doing it before you have to. 

I suppose if there's a real 40 man squeeze, then dropping Read is on the table and they just go with 3 catchers on the 40 man and add a guy later if necessary.  Also, I would want to check whether SK has an option left for next year.