Ah man, that puts the kibosh on my day. I "hated" him as a player. He was always playin' for the enemy .... Reds and Oreos. When he got the Indians' job, my attitude changed. Always liked him as a manager, what he represented and how he did it. Then he was the Nats' manager and his spot was cemented.
Dug out his Reds' baseball card from my old shoe box.