Author Topic: Top Prospect Lists: 2019  (Read 1611 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Slateman

  • Posts: 49035
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #25: February 15, 2019, 08:35:32 AM »
People underrate his time here. He had a 2.91 ERA over 185 IP in his first three years, before falling apart that last year. He was a good RP for us for the most part, just nothing like he was in Oakland.
So basically, he was good when there was no pressure on him. So like I said, he was middle relief.

If Treinen repeats last year, we can talk about being a diamond. But he was basically Craig Stammen when he was here.

Online NJ Ave

  • Posts: 3389
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #26: February 15, 2019, 09:46:51 AM »
So basically, he was good when there was no pressure on him. So like I said, he was middle relief.

If Treinen repeats last year, we can talk about being a diamond. But he was basically Craig Stammen when he was here.

Y'all are being a little too literal. He was a good player here, who turned into an outstanding player there. I don't think we need to turn up our noses at good middle relievers - we could have used more of them last year.

Offline Slateman

  • Posts: 49035
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #27: February 15, 2019, 10:08:36 AM »
Y'all are being a little too literal. He was a good player here, who turned into an outstanding player there. I don't think we need to turn up our noses at good middle relievers - we could have used more of them last year.
he was decent middle relief. Claiming that decent middle relief is a "diamond" is a stretch. Its more like a nice piece of copper.

Offline zimm_da_kid

  • Posts: 6991
  • Show me Otani
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #28: March 01, 2019, 02:07:01 PM »
Using ERA to rate a relief pitcher? 

All I needed to evaluate him was one look at the movement and speed combo on his nasty sinker

Online Elvir Ovcina

  • Posts: 2837
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #29: March 01, 2019, 02:22:07 PM »
All I needed to evaluate him was one look at the movement and speed combo on his nasty sinker

The difference between him in Washington and in Oakland is that he now has another pitch.  He's got 3 fastballs with three different movement patterns now and 2-3 mph between each of them.


Online Truconfidence

  • Posts: 3086
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #31: May 30, 2019, 08:48:05 PM »
So the kid(KJ Harrison)we got for Gio last trade deadline is no longer a catcher and is playing first base and is raking. I saw a small blurb of his hit chart and he hits the ball line to line. Not much power with us but showed some with Milwaukee minors. Interesting he still 31 in prospects being he was a 3rd round pick

Online Elvir Ovcina

  • Posts: 2837
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #32: May 31, 2019, 09:13:42 AM »
So the kid(KJ Harrison)we got for Gio last trade deadline is no longer a catcher and is playing first base and is raking. I saw a small blurb of his hit chart and he hits the ball line to line. Not much power with us but showed some with Milwaukee minors. Interesting he still 31 in prospects being he was a 3rd round pick

I bolded two bits that matter, plus the fact that he's almost 23.  If you're a 1B in the Carolina League at 23, you better be raking with power to be a real prospect.   That age with middling power at that position puts you on the Jose Marmolejos track, to pick one recent Nats example. 

Online NJ Ave

  • Posts: 3389
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #33: May 31, 2019, 11:08:14 AM »
What on earth is going on with Mason Denaburg? Is he ever actually going to *play* baseball?

Offline imref

  • Posts: 28652
  • 1B: The New Hot Corner
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #34: May 31, 2019, 11:26:31 AM »
What on earth is going on with Mason Denaburg? Is he ever actually going to *play* baseball?

still at extended spring training.  Per the below he'll either be at GCL or short-season A Auburn, neither of which start for a few more weeks.

https://www.masnsports.com/byron-kerr/2019/05/denaburg-doing-well-but-starting-point-for-summer-season-yet-to-be-announced.html

Online NJ Ave

  • Posts: 3389
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #35: May 31, 2019, 11:41:36 AM »
still at extended spring training.  Per the below he'll either be at GCL or short-season A Auburn, neither of which start for a few more weeks.

https://www.masnsports.com/byron-kerr/2019/05/denaburg-doing-well-but-starting-point-for-summer-season-yet-to-be-announced.html

I guess they are timing his development so he enters the majors at the same time we stop paying Max, in 2042.

Online Truconfidence

  • Posts: 3086
Re: Top Prospect Lists: 2019
« Reply #36: May 31, 2019, 04:06:08 PM »
I bolded two bits that matter, plus the fact that he's almost 23.  If you're a 1B in the Carolina League at 23, you better be raking with power to be a real prospect.   That age with middling power at that position puts you on the Jose Marmolejos track, to pick one recent Nats example.
oh I know that's the reason but he has flashed some in rookie ball. Drew Ward didnt flash any power till last year at 23 and now at 24 was raking before he got hurt. So who knows?? KJ was drafted in 2017.