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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Sports Books to Open at Nats Park?
« Reply #50: November 29, 2018, 02:36:25 PM »
10% tax

On all bets- why give an exclusion zone away- if anything you could probably sell licenses in that area for more

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« Reply #51: November 29, 2018, 03:05:39 PM »
On all bets- why give an exclusion zone away- if anything you could probably sell licenses in that area for more

According to the article that question is being debated, asking why give this exclusivity to publicly funded arenas. Of course some council members appear to be in the pocket of the franchise owners.

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« Reply #52: November 29, 2018, 03:15:42 PM »
I don't see any good spots near FedEx Field. Maybe the Youth Baseball Academy could fund itself by taking bets as fans head towards the stadium.

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« Reply #53: November 29, 2018, 03:36:52 PM »
I don't see any good spots near FedEx Field. Maybe the Youth Baseball Academy could fund itself by taking bets as fans head towards the stadium.

Mobile. Just because DC is wont do city wide licenses doesn’t mean States won’t. Personally, I’d rather use an app from a casino or site that I trust than go to a corner shop like in the UK.



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« Reply #56: November 29, 2018, 05:18:45 PM »
Evans confirms that the Nats have an exclusive deal with MGM, they appear to have some means of blocking competing betting sites when in the ballpark (and probably the two block radius). All that bullcrap in the flyer about supporting small businesses, they want MGM to have a monopoly in every high volume area.



https://www.legalsportsreport.com/26359/dc-sports-betting-bill-advances/amp/#click=https://t.co/USFsYN0kYK

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« Reply #57: November 29, 2018, 05:23:20 PM »
Evans confirms that the Nats have an exclusive deal with MGM, they appear to have some means of blocking competing betting sites when in the ballpark (and probably the two block radius). All that bullcrap in the flyer about supporting small businesses, they want MGM to have a monopoly in every high volume area.

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https://www.legalsportsreport.com/26359/dc-sports-betting-bill-advances/amp/#click=https://t.co/USFsYN0kYK

The fcc probably finds that hilarious.

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« Reply #58: November 29, 2018, 05:41:06 PM »
The fcc probably finds that hilarious.

I'm sure that MGM knows what they're doing.

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« Reply #59: November 29, 2018, 05:49:38 PM »
I'm sure that MGM knows what they're doing.

Blocking app access over cellular- again, I’m sure the fcc is chuckling- Hotels and theaters tried to jam signals years ago and it didn’t end well

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« Reply #60: November 29, 2018, 05:55:08 PM »
Blocking app access over cellular- again, I’m sure the fcc is chuckling- Hotels and theaters tried to jam signals years ago and it didn’t end well

Jamming a signal? They'll just work with the city to grant access to betting sites based on the cell tower. Already done in West Virginia.

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« Reply #61: November 29, 2018, 07:49:44 PM »
Jamming a signal? They'll just work with the city to grant access to betting sites based on the cell tower. Already done in West Virginia.

That works to grant access, not to deny access.

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« Reply #62: November 30, 2018, 08:23:30 AM »
I wonder how much blow back will come from the restaurants and hotels on granting an exclusive deal to the sports teams around the arenas? The restaurants and hotels are paying for the ballpark and now Lerner wants to reach into the pockets of the businesses closest to the ballpark.

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« Reply #63: November 30, 2018, 11:11:21 AM »
I wonder how much blow back will come from the restaurants and hotels on granting an exclusive deal to the sports teams around the arenas? The restaurants and hotels are paying for the ballpark and now Lerner wants to reach into the pockets of the businesses closest to the ballpark.

The restaurants and hotels closest to the ballpark are getting paid because of the ballpark.

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« Reply #64: November 30, 2018, 11:29:01 AM »
The exclusion zone isn’t remotely technically feasible for apps and websites- they can’t have windows, but there is nothing stopping them from selling drinks to people watching games on tv with a ticker of updated odds

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« Reply #65: November 30, 2018, 11:51:39 AM »
The restaurants and hotels closest to the ballpark are getting paid because of the ballpark.

Sure, and they paid a high premium for that location, they are in business to attract sports fans before and after games, this proposed rule impacts their ability to attract customers. I'm not sure why the city feels the need to give a perk to billionaire franchise owners at the expense of millionaire restaurant owners. Why shouldn't Salt Line or Bardo have the same opportunity as bars in the other 99% of the city. Why should I be locked into betting via MGM if the bar next door offers better options?

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« Reply #66: November 30, 2018, 11:57:54 AM »
Sure, and they paid a high premium for that location, they are in business to attract sports fans before and after games, this proposed rule impacts their ability to attract customers. I'm not sure why the city feels the need to give a perk to billionaire franchise owners at the expense of millionaire restaurant owners. Why shouldn't Salt Line or Bardo have the same opportunity as bars in the other 99% of the city. Why should I be locked into betting via MGM if the bar next door offers better options?

Without the ballpark, they have no customers at all...

The District already gifted billionaires with a stadium...this doesn't seem like much of a stretch...

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« Reply #67: November 30, 2018, 12:07:49 PM »
Without the ballpark, they have no customers at all...

The District already gifted billionaires with a stadium...this doesn't seem like much of a stretch...

OK, but why give business owner A a perk over business owner B? Why subsidize the teams?

Meanwhile the teams are pushing for legalized sports betting based on helping the same small businesses they are damaging with this rule.

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« Reply #68: November 30, 2018, 12:13:16 PM »
Without the ballpark, they have no customers at all...

The District already gifted billionaires with a stadium...this doesn't seem like much of a stretch...

The city is already giving leagues a royalty for no reason. Those stadiums were negotiated with the owners already extracting everything they could from the city. I could see giving them exclusive in return for say a 5 or 10 year lease extension, but there is no reason to give them something of value for nothing

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« Reply #69: November 30, 2018, 12:21:13 PM »
The city is already giving leagues a royalty for no reason. Those stadiums were negotiated with the owners already extracting everything they could from the city. I could see giving them exclusive in return for say a 5 or 10 year lease extension, but there is no reason to give them something of value for nothing

Yeah, Evans wanted to gift the teams a fee that the eight states with legal betting have already rejected. Evans must have some reason for pushing for all these perks. The other council members are pushing back.

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« Reply #70: November 30, 2018, 12:28:12 PM »
Those stadiums were negotiated with the owners already extracting everything they could from the city.

Apparently not...

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« Reply #71: November 30, 2018, 01:01:40 PM »
Re-reading the City Paper, as of now only the DC Lottery will have mobile and on line betting, all other sites will require you to place the bets in person. So if the Nats want people placing bets every inning they'll have kiosks at the top of every section. Imagine the guy next to you running up to place a wager eight times a game. It will be interesting to see how the logistics shake out.

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The leagues — along with casino operator MGM, the Washington Nationals and Monumental Sports, which owns the Capitals and Wizards — also unsuccessfully lobbied for 10 licenses for mobile and online sports betting, instead of giving only the D.C. Lottery the chance to operate citywide. And they asked for a five-block radius around the stadiums and arenas; the bill set it at two blocks.

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« Reply #72: November 30, 2018, 03:00:04 PM »
Re-reading the City Paper, as of now only the DC Lottery will have mobile and on line betting, all other sites will require you to place the bets in person. So if the Nats want people placing bets every inning they'll have kiosks at the top of every section. Imagine the guy next to you running up to place a wager eight times a game. It will be interesting to see how the logistics shake out.
 

In seat? If you want to see pissed off customers, see what happens when someone gets stuck in line, can’t place a bet and loses money

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« Reply #73: November 30, 2018, 06:18:47 PM »
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...the bill allows for five professional sports stadiums in Washington to have 24-hour-a-day sportsbooks that are open to the public....with no ticket to a game required...Should the D.C. Council approve the sports betting bill it is considering, it will set precedent [for on site wagering], and perhaps open the floodgates across the country...the only sports betting app that will accessible in the city will be the D.C. Lottery app — unless you’re sitting in one of the professional sports arenas...Inside those spaces, the only app that will be available will belong to the partner of the professional team that plays in the venue. Either way, District residents will be prevented from using apps from companies like DraftKings or FanDuel or any other operator in the city, essentially giving the lottery a monopoly on mobile and internet sports betting around the city.

So the DC Lottery will use cell towers for mobile betting and the five approved venues will use their wifi connection to verify that betters are on site.

https://sportshandle.com/d-c-sports-betting-bill-would-allow-sportsbooks-in-professional-sports-arenas/

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« Reply #74: November 30, 2018, 09:30:08 PM »