Author Topic: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves (Read 81933 times)

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #175:** October 21, 2018, 06:42:07 PM »

My favorite part is where he ignored that Gio is not a Nat anymore. You'd think someone who beats off to MLB depth charts would be a little more aware of such things.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #176:** October 21, 2018, 10:53:39 PM »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on October 21, 2018, 06:42:07 PM

My favorite part is where he ignored that Gio is not a Nat anymore. You'd think someone who beats off to MLB depth charts would be a little more aware of such things.

To be fair to ZDK, Gio still was a Nat when he wrote that post, as was Rafael Bautista. I don't think any of that moves the needle.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #177:** October 25, 2018, 11:24:44 AM »

Trea Turner missed the Super Two cutoff by two days. He's about to get paid.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/super-two-cutoff-mlb-2018-2019.html

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #178:** October 25, 2018, 12:18:01 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on October 25, 2018, 11:24:44 AM

Trea Turner missed the Super Two cutoff by two days. He's about to get paid.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/super-two-cutoff-mlb-2018-2019.html

Once again nats management is bad at accounting

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #179:** October 25, 2018, 12:40:59 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on October 25, 2018, 11:24:44 AM

Trea Turner missed the Super Two cutoff by two days. He's about to get paid.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/super-two-cutoff-mlb-2018-2019.html

If it makes him happy maybe he will play better.

bluestreak · « **Reply #180:** October 25, 2018, 12:52:09 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on October 25, 2018, 11:24:44 AM

Trea Turner missed the Super Two cutoff by two days. He's about to get paid.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/super-two-cutoff-mlb-2018-2019.html

I can’t get upset with a guy getting close to what he’s worth. Plus I’m not sure what could have been done. The die was cast in 2016.

Get ready for this with Soto as well.

Slateman · « **Reply #181:** October 25, 2018, 01:36:36 PM »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on October 25, 2018, 12:18:01 PM

Once again nats management is bad at accounting

The cutoff is determined every year. Not sure how they were supposed to know what it would be three years ago when they called him up

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #182:** October 25, 2018, 01:46:17 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on October 25, 2018, 01:36:36 PM

The cutoff is determined every year. Not sure how they were supposed to know what it would be three years ago when they called him up

I want to blame Martinez.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #183:** October 25, 2018, 01:51:59 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on October 25, 2018, 01:36:36 PM

The cutoff is determined every year. Not sure how they were supposed to know what it would be three years ago when they called him up

Just like with the luxury tax, they know the formula and they got it wrong

bluestreak · « **Reply #184:** October 25, 2018, 02:03:01 PM »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on October 25, 2018, 01:51:59 PM

Just like with the luxury tax, they know the formula and they got it wrong

The luxury tax threshold is is set years in advance in the CBA. The super 2 threshold is based on the top 22 percent of players between 2 and 3 years. It’s unknowable unless you can foresee what every team is doing with their guys.

I guess you could have held him out another month just to be sure I guess. But once you bring him up, the only way out is to send him to the minors.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #185:** October 25, 2018, 02:05:35 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on October 25, 2018, 02:03:01 PM

The luxury tax threshold is is set years in advance in the CBA. The super 2 threshold is based on the top 22 percent of players between 2 and 3 years. It’s unknowable unless you can foresee what every team is doing with their guys.

I guess you could have held him out another month just to be sure I guess. But once you bring him up, the only way out is to send him to the minors.

They need an improved Ouija board.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #186:** October 25, 2018, 05:08:33 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on October 25, 2018, 12:52:09 PM

I can’t get upset with a guy getting close to what he’s worth. Plus I’m not sure what could have been done. The die was cast in 2016.

Get ready for this with Soto as well.

well, his first year up, they called him up and he more or less did not play, right? I think folks said it was dumb at the time.

2015 - 27 games, 44 PAs. He was brought up to sit and occasionally pinch run in a year we were fading.

hotshot · « **Reply #187:** October 25, 2018, 05:36:40 PM »

Glad to see Trea is gonna get paid now.

Expos · « **Reply #188:** October 27, 2018, 01:48:40 AM »

Nathan Eovaldi and JA Happ please.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #189:** October 27, 2018, 06:07:35 PM »

Eovaldi as a relief ace please. Give him $14 mil a year to do so. Also get Miller, britton, ottavino, kimbrel, familia, or Robertson as well and we'd be set

Doolittle
Eovaldi
FA
Bear claw
Suero
Glover
Solis

Slateman · « **Reply #190:** October 27, 2018, 06:26:58 PM »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on October 27, 2018, 06:07:35 PM

Eovaldi as a relief ace please. Give him $14 mil a year to do so. Also get Miller, britton, ottavino, kimbrel, familia, or Robertson as well and we'd be set

Doolittle
Eovaldi
FA
Bear claw
Suero
Glover
Solis

The 71+ million per year bullpen

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #191:** October 28, 2018, 02:00:23 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on October 27, 2018, 06:26:58 PM

The 71+ million per year bullpen

that's nowhere close to 71+ million per year on bullpen jerk

Slateman · « **Reply #192:** October 28, 2018, 05:15:53 PM »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on October 28, 2018, 02:00:23 PM

that's nowhere close to 71+ million per year on bullpen jerk

I missed the "or" I thought you meant get all of them.

It's still retarded.

Evoldi: 14 million AAV
Kimbrel: 16-20 million AAV
Miller/Britton/Ottavino/Familia: ~ 10 million AAV
Robertson: ~8 million AAV

That's basically 20-25 million wrapped in two bullpen guys when you already have a closer locked in at 6 million per year for the next two seasons. That seems pretty stupid when you have a bunch of other holes on the team.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #193:** October 28, 2018, 06:39:03 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on October 28, 2018, 05:15:53 PM

I missed the "or" I thought you meant get all of them.

It's still retarded.

Evoldi: 14 million AAV
Kimbrel: 16-20 million AAV
Miller/Britton/Ottavino/Familia: ~ 10 million AAV
Robertson: ~8 million AAV

That's basically 20-25 million wrapped in two bullpen guys when you already have a closer locked in at 6 million per year for the next two seasons. That seems pretty stupid when you have a bunch of other holes on the team.

rp=wins

bluestreak · « **Reply #194:** October 29, 2018, 04:42:05 PM »

In a surprise to no one, Doolittle’s option is picked up.

imref · « **Reply #195:** October 29, 2018, 04:46:43 PM »

Quote from: bluestreak on October 29, 2018, 04:42:05 PM

In a surprise to no one, Doolittle’s option is picked up.

wow, absolutely shocking

Slateman · « **Reply #196:** October 29, 2018, 05:02:49 PM »

6 million is a decent deal for ~45 innings of elite relief

hotshot · « **Reply #197:** October 29, 2018, 05:11:59 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on October 28, 2018, 05:15:53 PM

I missed the "or" I thought you meant get all of them.

It's still retarded.

Evoldi: 14 million AAV
Kimbrel: 16-20 million AAV
Miller/Britton/Ottavino/Familia: ~ 10 million AAV
Robertson: ~8 million AAV

That's basically 20-25 million wrapped in two bullpen guys when you already have a closer locked in at 6 million per year for the next two seasons. That seems pretty stupid when you have a bunch of other holes on the team.

If I were an owner, Kimbrel would have to pay me to pitch for my team. Guy has been a shadow of what he once was in Atlanta ever since leaving there.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #198:** October 29, 2018, 05:41:12 PM »

Could be a couple Nats targets in here:

Jon Heyman@JonHeyman
2 mins ago
Astros are planning to extend the $17.9M qualifying offer to Dallas Keuchel. They are planning not to extend it to Marwin Gonzalez. No word yet on Charlie Morton, who may be a close call.

Elvir Ovcina · « **Reply #199:** October 29, 2018, 05:45:56 PM »

Quote from: hotshot on October 29, 2018, 05:11:59 PM

If I were an owner, Kimbrel would have to pay me to pitch for my team. Guy has been a shadow of what he once was in Atlanta ever since leaving there.

Sure, but that's an insanely high bar to hit. His ERA in Atlanta was under 1.50. Even since, he's under 2.50 - and for reference, Mariano Rivera's career ERA was 2.21. Kimbrel presently sits at 1.91 all-in.